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#Post#: 27748--------------------------------------------------
Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address &
Markings not clear
DIR By: JunotheCorso
Date: June 27, 2024, 1:22 pm
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I got wind of another PCN issued to my old address through a
DSAR to the council (infact all councils in London which I did
last week and compiled a list of email addressed.
Location: Southwark
Contravention: 34j
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2023 10:56
Stage: Warrant Issued February 2024
Caught by: 593
Location: WALWORTH ROAD OPPOSITE HAMPTON STREET
Google:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ff5L2YFvdtcLoGEJ9
Looks like the bus lane markings are not being maintained, can
barely see the bus lane marking as they are almost completed
faded. According to google maps there is now a rather large road
work patch across part of the bus lane
There is a tree directly in front of the sign blocking from a
drivers point of view while in the road.
Video:
HTML https://imgur.com/2JrCZVS
HTML https://i.imgur.com/4KNIcRV.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/R3Fl8P3.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/GYOZiJY.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/CYLR0Nq.jpeg
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#Post#: 27751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: JunotheCorso
Date: June 27, 2024, 1:36 pm
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[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] must be about somewhere.
Same cameras listed in this article
HTML https://southwarknews.co.uk/area/southwark/all-the-bus-lanes-in-southwark-to-watch-out-for-as-council-issues-over-1-1million-in-fines/
#Post#: 27754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 27, 2024, 1:52 pm
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I am here in my beloved Kos actually but also with ftla and all
members in spirit. So, what's the story? Their PCNs were changed
in February this year only.
When I get back ITN News are going to speak with me. I'll drop
you a PM.
#Post#: 27756--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 27, 2024, 2:04 pm
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--- Quote from: JunotheCorso link ---
>
> [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] must be about somewhere.
>
> Same cameras listed in this article
HTML https://southwarknews.co.uk/area/southwark/all-the-bus-lanes-in-southwark-to-watch-out-for-as-council-issues-over-1-1million-in-fines/
>
--- End Quote ---
The more salient part is the PCN wording as far as your case is
concerned:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/tommy-poirot-to-expose-all-london-councils'-bus-lane-enforcement/msg26266/#msg26266
#Post#: 27757--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 27, 2024, 2:13 pm
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'Warrant issued to wrong address..'
OP, who cares about the rights and wrongs of PCNs and cameras?
A rather challenging question, but you're beyond reps and
appeals procedurally unless you can legitimately submit an OOT
SD so unless an extra-procedural opportunity is available??
But we wouldn't know because you've not told us.
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Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: JunotheCorso
Date: June 27, 2024, 2:15 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> [quote author=JunotheCorso link=topic=2355.msg27751#msg27751
date=1719513397]
> [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] must be about somewhere.
>
> Same cameras listed in this article
HTML https://southwarknews.co.uk/area/southwark/all-the-bus-lanes-in-southwark-to-watch-out-for-as-council-issues-over-1-1million-in-fines/
>
--- End Quote ---
The more salient part is the PCN wording as far as your case is
concerned:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/tommy-poirot-to-expose-all-london-councils'-bus-lane-enforcement/msg26266/#msg26266
[/quote]
HTML https://i.imgur.com/BFqnihY.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/E1myCgl.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/eT86STk.png
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Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: JunotheCorso
Date: June 27, 2024, 2:33 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> 'Warrant issued to wrong address..'
>
> OP, who cares about the rights and wrongs of PCNs and cameras?
>
> A rather challenging question, but you're beyond reps and
appeals procedurally unless you can legitimately submit an OOT
SD so unless an extra-procedural opportunity is available??
>
> But we wouldn't know because you've not told us.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello Andersen, Yes I am still working on trying to find the
receipt for that. I do have screenshots of the online address
change portal not working. It would not recognise my current
address on the licence and kept informing to me to apply via
post
#Post#: 27761--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 27, 2024, 2:48 pm
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Shall we break this down pl..at the moment the type of
contravention is actually not the issue intra-procedurally.
An Order for Recovery was issued to you at XXX address giving
you until 6 Jan 2004 to pay the penalty.
You didn't. Neither did you submit a Stat Dec to reset the
process.
Why?
Because the council were using the 'wrong' address and therefore
neither the CC nor OfR was received you.
Your only procedural option is to submit an OOT SD. But on what
grounds? I didn't do it/the cameras were not whatever are not
procedural grounds for TEC, they're appeal grounds for an
adjudicator.
We need a timeline.
If the bailiffs are at your door I recommend paying them because
this caps your liability and in no way affects any OOT which you
might submit.
#Post#: 27798--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 28, 2024, 1:50 am
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HTML https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/
I have also sent Neil B a PM as he is the expert.
#Post#: 27987--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark - Buslane 34j - Warrant Issued to Wrong Address
& Markings not clear
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 30, 2024, 8:01 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Your only procedural option is to submit an OOT SD. But on
what grounds? I didn't do it/the cameras were not whatever are
not procedural grounds for TEC, they're appeal grounds for an
adjudicator.
>
> We need a timeline.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed, [member=2049]JunotheCorso[/member] we need to understand
how the correspondence got to the wrong address in the first
place. Have you moved house since 28 June 2022, when the last
V5C was issued?
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