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Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: June 23, 2024, 1:24 pm
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Was caught going over bridge on Larkhall Rise SW4 on my
motorbike. The bridge is actually one-way and I was going the
wrong way. Inattention, I know the place very well. I have no
defence over the offence itself, can anyone see anything wrong
in the PCN details?
HTML https://i.imgur.com/f4akd4W.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/PIzDx2f.jpeg
PS Upload for files is full. Therefore have to post on Imgur BUT
this site does not accept pdf images so cannot scan but must use
mobile to take a photo. Not that distinct. Could admin sort out
the "files full" issue please?
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 23, 2024, 3:06 pm
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We need VRM and PCN details please.
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: June 24, 2024, 12:58 am
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Er...why? I thought these details were normally kept hidden in
case some snoop from the council was monitoring the site.
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 24, 2024, 3:29 am
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--- Quote from: Chaseman link ---
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> Er...why? I thought these details were normally kept hidden in
case some snoop from the council was monitoring the site.
>
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But they've already got these; they are on your PCN !
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 24, 2024, 3:42 am
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--- Quote from: Chaseman link ---
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> Er...why? I thought these details were normally kept hidden in
case some snoop from the council was monitoring the site.
>
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So we can access the video etc and buy you a pint at Penderel's
Oak afterwards.
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: baroudeur
Date: June 24, 2024, 4:16 am
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It's confusing signage approaching that bridge in the permitted
direction!
HTML https://tinyurl.com/5c5d6ekp
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: June 24, 2024, 8:03 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> [quote author=Chaseman link=topic=2321.msg27322#msg27322
date=1719208718]
> Er...why? I thought these details were normally kept hidden in
case some snoop from the council was monitoring the site.
>
--- End Quote ---
But they've already got these; they are on your PCN !
[/quote]
Yes but they have not seen the arguments we might be advancing
unless they can link the VRN/PCN number to the thread.
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 24, 2024, 1:59 pm
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[member=65]Chaseman[/member]: you should really discuss this
privately with cp8759.
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: June 25, 2024, 12:42 am
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--- Quote from: baroudeur link ---
>
> It's confusing signage approaching that bridge in the
permitted direction!
>
>
HTML https://tinyurl.com/5c5d6ekp
>
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Now I think I know why I made the mistake I did. I was going
west to east through the "low flying motorbikes sign" but this
used to be the one way permitted direction - if you creep along
the GSV on Larkhall Rise from the west you initially see the
"low flying motorbikes" sign dating from July 2022. As you get
closer to the bridge the view changes to one dating from March
2019 which shows a One Way arrow (white on blue). This must have
changed at some point between 2019 and 2022. Going from east to
west there's a No Entry sign which was always there. So I went
through in the direction you had always been able to go not
noticing the signage had changed and metaphorically kicked
myself for forgetting that it was One Way in the opposite
direction - not true! So we now have the slightly ridiculous
situation where it's No Entry east to west and No Thoroughfare
for motor vehicles west to east which means only bicycles can go
through in that direction in the centre of the road. They can
also cross the bridge in the opposite direction as long as they
come along the edge track i.e. between the sleepers and the
kerb.
It's not a route I use a lot but subconsciously must have
remembered I was OK going the way I did without paying attention
to the signage. I think I am probably still bang to rights but
at least I am not going completely mad. PCN is LJ2877492A and
VRN is KY15HXG but the pictures on the site are the same ones
shown in the PCN and the video does not really add anything.
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Re: Motorbike 52m PCN Lambeth
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 25, 2024, 1:53 am
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Your luck day. The emboldened part is wrong as it robs you of a
day:
Penalty Charge Notice details
Ticket ReferenceLJ2877492A
Your PCN is at discount stage. PCN process information
Vehicle Registration NumberKY15HXG
ColourBLACK
MakeSUZUKI
Contravention52m - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
LocationLarkhall Rise (C)
First seen atSat, 15 Jun 2024 18:27
Issued atSat, 15 Jun 2024 18:27
Served byPost
The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to
£130.00 on Tue, 16 Jul 2024. Please pay £65.00 now.
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The law states this @ 4.8. iii-v to Schedule I:
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted
(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the
period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;
(v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the
28 day period, an increased charge may be payable;
Your website shows that the price will increase to £130 a whole
day before it is legally possible to do so. Therefore, this is
a serious departure from the statutory scheme and it follows
that the PCN should be cancelled.
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