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#Post#: 28128--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: July 1, 2024, 4:35 am
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> [member=154]challenge_cheaters[/member] I'll need to tweak the
draft slightly. Do you know the house number of the house on the
corner here?
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/44E2GC81eh8YVV9H7
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Hi there, yes, that is House number 19. Thanks
#Post#: 28232--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 1, 2024, 4:59 pm
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Revised draft:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Harrow,
The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the
PCN that a contravention took place while my car was parked on
Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 3, but my car was not at that
location. Lamppost 3 is situated opposite number 19 Cannon Lane,
but my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the
contravention alleged on the PCN did not occur (which it did
not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or
didn't occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is
only the matter alleged on the PCN that counts.
It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Don't forget a screenshot of the confirmation page once
submitted. The council will obviously reject but this will buy
us some time to get some more information about the traffic
order.
#Post#: 28434--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: July 3, 2024, 4:54 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Revised draft:
>
> [indent]
> Dear London Borough of Harrow,
>
> The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the
PCN that a contravention took place while my car was parked on
Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 3, but my car was not at that
location. Lamppost 3 is situated opposite number 19 Cannon Lane,
but my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the
contravention alleged on the PCN did not occur (which it did
not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or
didn't occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is
only the matter alleged on the PCN that counts.
>
> It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
>
> Yours faithfully,
> [/indent]
>
> Don't forget a screenshot of the confirmation page once
submitted. The council will obviously reject but this will buy
us some time to get some more information about the traffic
order.
>
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Many thanks for this! Should I also mention that I am a
resident at the house where the car was standing? It seems the
parking restriction is to prevent commuters from parking there
for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station, and not
to punish local residents.
#Post#: 28549--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 3, 2024, 4:20 pm
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--- Quote from: challenge_cheaters link ---
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> Many thanks for this! Should I also mention that I am a
resident at the house where the car was standing? It seems the
parking restriction is to prevent commuters from parking there
for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station, and not
to punish local residents.
>
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Yes you could mention that, it can't hurt.
#Post#: 30011--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: July 16, 2024, 6:06 am
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Hi All,
Sadly they rejected my appeal. Please see below:
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/0rqKb5zY/IMG-8453-2.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/0rqKb5zY
Please could you advise on next steps. Thanks
#Post#: 30046--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: mickR
Date: July 16, 2024, 9:45 am
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standard rejection, it was expected. not the end of the game
tho.
#Post#: 30073--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 16, 2024, 12:50 pm
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Whilst our garden hedge was being cut we temporarily moved our
car from the drive to the road outside our house but forgot to
move it back to the drive. The parking sign states Permit
holders only 11am - Noon. We are not permit holders and received
a ticket at 11:37.
Feels unfair that we have to pay £55 for parking just outside
our house! Please can you help.
So, hedge cutting might have been the trigger for moving the
car, but it was then left there. IMO at present you have no
statutory defence, you could and should have parked your car
where it was legal to do so. Sorry if this doesn't chime with
other views.
Their response is typically bland but IMO this counts for little
in the wider scheme at this stage and, other than prospective
procedural impropriety, I can't see a defence. But if they would
re-offer the discount in a NoR then you have the chance to test
their procedural propriety risk-free.
#Post#: 30230--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: July 18, 2024, 5:42 am
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> [quote author=challenge_cheaters
link=topic=2320.msg28434#msg28434 date=1720000499]
> Many thanks for this! Should I also mention that I am a
resident at the house where the car was standing? It seems the
parking restriction is to prevent commuters from parking there
for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station, and not
to punish local residents.
>
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Yes you could mention that, it can't hurt.
[/quote]
Hi there, any thoughts on the rejection? Your help will be much
appreciated. Thanks
#Post#: 30437--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 19, 2024, 2:17 pm
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--- Quote from: challenge_cheaters link ---
>
> Hi All,
> Sadly they rejected my appeal.
>
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No they have not because you did not make an appeal, you made an
informal representation and these are almost always responded to
with a fob-off rejection.
More importantly, I have been sent a copy of The Harrow (Parking
Places) Traffic Order 2020
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zpfA47SO4Z-gk8x8RbCsIkbsLApjS8Qm/view<br
/>as enacted and all the orders which amend the articles to that
order and schedule 1, I have saved them all here
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1emhqR1MrbUnhkaTaeLg7hxGLkpmFC2H9.
There appears to be no provision creating a parking place in the
location where you were parked, hence the alleged contravention
did not occur.
The working copy of Schedule 1 is here
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Xve_wUcqNXMyVaBZbVBGTrWHQL4ysMk/view,<br
/>I have asked for a copy of the enacted version.
#Post#: 31791--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge
was being cut
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: July 31, 2024, 6:46 pm
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Please advise on next steps. 14 days from the letter ended on
the 25th July. It’s now 01 August, so I am a little worried on
what to do now. Please help. Thanks
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