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#Post#: 27184--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: tawnyess
Date: June 22, 2024, 5:50 pm
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> I've dealt with similar complaints at this location
previously. There is a local who hides and then pops up to snap
a photo to get their reward. The location is definitely land
under statutory control. Therefore PoFA does not apply and
liability cannot be transferred from the unknown driver to the
known keeper as long as the keeper doesn't blab it.
>
> That is why the NtK is not relying on PoFA. Only the driver is
liable. They have no idea who the driver is unless you tell
them.
>
> Whilst you have been advised to appeal, I will place money on
it that you get nowhere with either the Plan B or Plan C appeals
with PCM or the IAS. Go ahead and fill your boots. Whatever you
do, you will end up beating this at Plan D stage...county court.
Hence my suggestion to save yourself time and effort and simply
wait for the claim form.
>
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Thanks, did you get a chance to read the post from mse I
attached earlier?
What is your take on that and how it could be used for my case.
#Post#: 27185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: b789
Date: June 22, 2024, 6:22 pm
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I’m familiar with that thread. I even posted on it. What matters
that this is likely to go all the way. You have a very good
defence, preferably as the known keeper because only the unknown
driver can be liable. You also have all the other points about
poor signage, no contract because of the stopping prohibition
and therefore no consideration time and so on.
Don’t fret it. Ignore all debt collector letters you’re going to
receive. Wait for a letter of claim and then come back. Or go
through the sham appeals if you think it’ll make a difference.
It’s your time and energy.
#Post#: 27203--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: June 23, 2024, 4:12 am
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In the interests of clarity, as mine and b789's views aren't
greatly different on the matter: my main reason for suggesting
you appeal is to put them on notice that you're doing your
research and/or seeking advice from one of the parking forums.
As I've already suggested a template to use, which you could use
to appeal as the keeper only, so the effort involved is almost
zero, with essentially no risk. There's a small chance they'll
put you in the 'too much effort' pile and you'll avoid having to
rock up to court. If they don't, then as we've both said, you've
got a number of avenues of defence.
(Having had a roam around on Google Maps, the location seems
familiar, it must have cropped up on the now dead PePiPoo at
some point)
#Post#: 27267--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: tawnyess
Date: June 23, 2024, 9:45 am
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I think you are both right, I think sending them a message with
the example above will show them I won't go quietly which could
lead them throwing it put. Worst comes both routes could end the
same in court.
#Post#: 30818--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: tawnyess
Date: July 23, 2024, 8:52 am
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Just an update on this, I have sent an "appeal" with above, been
just about a month with no response to it. When I try to view
the pcn it has removed the option to pay for it.
#Post#: 30820--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 23, 2024, 8:54 am
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Have you chased them? If not, do so.
#Post#: 30826--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: b789
Date: July 23, 2024, 10:06 am
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It's possible that it was cancelled. Who knows? Don't worry
about anything unless you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) or an
N1SDT claim form from the CNBC. Anything else regarding this can
be safely ignored.
Also, there is a new "short" defence that is much more likely to
have any claim either discontinued at a much earlier stage or
struck out. This short defence has been drafted up on advice
from a long serving district judge which will fit on a single
side of A4 and also includes a draft order which no claimant has
manage to fully comply with to date.
The judges mantra regarding roboclaimers:
[indent]What the defendants should strive to achieve is to make
life:
As easy as possible for the Judge
And as difficult as possible for the claimant[/indent]
#Post#: 30853--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: tawnyess
Date: July 23, 2024, 1:40 pm
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I would have thought I would have recieved a rejection letter
of some sort before any other claim letters.
#Post#: 30855--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 23, 2024, 1:45 pm
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Hence why I asked if you had chased.
#Post#: 126213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Charge Notice - High Point Village (Hayes UB3)
"Parked within a restricted area"
DIR By: karan323
Date: July 29, 2026, 1:17 pm
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Just curious what happened in the end with this case ?
I stopped at this location trying to read signs and find parking
but then receiving a PCN this week
I am wondering if appeal with above format is the next course of
action for me too ? or else should I keep ignoring these letters
from Parking company and then just reply to letter of claim if
and when I receive it
thanks in advance
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