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       #Post#: 26413--------------------------------------------------
       Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of vehicles,
       Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: June 17, 2024, 7:11 am
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       Hello Experts,
       I have received this PCN as certain vehciles were not allowed to
       go on that street. I have been at that site before and did not
       see these signs before and never had a pcn. I just went to drop
       off and then drove back without knowing the cars are not
       allowed. I have done it 2-3 times in last few days just to drop
       off, worried i might received more of these. Please could
       someone help.
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       Thanks
       #Post#: 26416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2024, 7:15 am
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       It is very likely you will receive more PCNs.  Did you not see
       the sign, or you saw it and ignored it ?
       #Post#: 26417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: June 17, 2024, 7:24 am
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       I did not see it at all, main sign was on the side and can
       easily get missed.
       #Post#: 26439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2024, 1:04 pm
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       Well, there are actually two signs there, so you may well
       struggle with the contravention itself : -
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       But only one has the text board below it. This assumes GSV
       latest view, dated Oct 2022 still reflects the current
       situation. You could argue on lack of advance warning as you
       approach to turn left into the street, as GSV doesn't show any.
       As for the PCNs yet to arrive; if they are dated after the first
       PCN, but before you received the first one, you could argue it
       is a disproportionate penalty because you were unaware of the
       contravention until the first PCN arrived.  They may cancel the
       later ones, but they don't have to. So best not to be
       confrontational in your reps !
       BTW, I looked on their website but there seem to be only photo
       extracts from the video. There seems to be no video to view.
       #Post#: 26478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: June 17, 2024, 6:36 pm
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       Hi, Thanks for the reply. There is a video too just below the
       images with play sign. What should I write in the represenation
       and what is the last date to do this?
       #Post#: 26642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 18, 2024, 6:37 pm
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       Video:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN__-FMCrLo
       You say you'd been on site before and you were dropping
       something / someone off. So, what's the nature of the site, why
       were you there, and who or what were you dropping off?
       #Post#: 26848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: June 20, 2024, 3:21 am
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       Hi, Thanks for the reply. This road leads to Hounslow high
       street and I just dropped my relatives there and drove back, I
       did not stay or park there.
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       > Video:
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       > You say you'd been on site before and you were dropping
       something / someone off. So, what's the nature of the site, why
       were you there, and who or what were you dropping off?
       >
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       #Post#: 27064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: June 21, 2024, 7:30 pm
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       Hello, any thoughts of what to write in the representation?
       #Post#: 27276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 23, 2024, 10:45 am
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       Do you have any mitigating circumstances unrelated to the
       contravention that you could advance?
       This might have to be a case for the strategy of last resort
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       The traffic order is The London Borough of Hounslow (Prescribed
       Routes) Order 2023
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       #Post#: 27892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hounslow, Code 52JM, Prohibition on certain type of
       vehicles, Fair Stree J/W Hanworth Road
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: June 28, 2024, 7:45 pm
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       Hi, Thanks for the reply.  can not think of anything else,  with
       regards to creating a video for them to then click etc, I had a
       pcn where we tried it before but tribunal did not consider that.
       Please advise what to do next here?
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