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       #Post#: 26160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: Faust
       Date: June 15, 2024, 10:27 am
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       That's the Google Street view where I have parked.
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/uwBS6xHZsisUdSFy7
       #Post#: 26225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: Faust
       Date: June 16, 2024, 2:47 am
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       Typing from my laptop now.
       Here's the link to all images.
  HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/117AoFYVuFUyxzJMlS_pkBr6Kg0M6ACyL?usp=share_link
       And here's the google map link
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/16ECp49rRuiMoexXA
       The other side of the PCN is blank , so there's no information
       behind it.
       #Post#: 26232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: Faust
       Date: June 16, 2024, 4:29 am
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       Also, forgot to mention, that I have parked on there to drop my
       4months old baby in the house. As there was unsafe to stop on
       the road, I stopped on the kerb.
       #Post#: 26233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: June 16, 2024, 5:14 am
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       TfL use the British Transport Police for matters relating to
       London Underground. But that doesn't extend to road traffic
       matters.
       I am under the impression that Red Routes are under the
       jurisdiction of the police rather than TfL or local council
       CEOs.
       It has been against the law to park on the pavenemt in the
       Greater London are for an awful long time.
       #Post#: 26237--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: Faust
       Date: June 16, 2024, 5:37 am
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
       >
       > TfL use the British Transport Police for matters relating to
       London Underground. But that doesn't extend to road traffic
       matters.
       >
       > I am under the impression that Red Routes are under the
       jurisdiction of the police rather than TfL or local council
       CEOs.
       >
       > It has been against the law to park on the pavenemt in the
       Greater London are for an awful long time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I haven't parked on the red lines. I have attached a photo where
       I parked my car.
       I was really surprised to see the police officer issuing a PCN.
       #Post#: 26238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: 666
       Date: June 16, 2024, 5:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Faust link ---
       >
       > [quote author=roythebus link=topic=2229.msg26233#msg26233
       date=1718532882]
       > TfL use the British Transport Police for matters relating to
       London Underground. But that doesn't extend to road traffic
       matters.
       >
       > I am under the impression that Red Routes are under the
       jurisdiction of the police rather than TfL or local council
       CEOs.
       >
       > It has been against the law to park on the pavenemt in the
       Greater London are for an awful long time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I haven't parked on the red lines. I have attached a photo where
       I parked my car.
       I was really surprised to see the police officer issuing a PCN.
       [/quote]
       The red lines (and yellow ones, for that matter) apply across
       the whole highway, including the footpaths.
       #Post#: 26241--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: June 16, 2024, 6:11 am
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
       >
       > TfL use the British Transport Police for matters relating to
       London Underground. But that doesn't extend to road traffic
       matters.
       > I am under the impression that Red Routes are under the
       jurisdiction of the police rather than TfL or local council
       CEOs.
       > It has been against the law to park on the pavenemt in the
       Greater London are for an awful long time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Roy, this
  HTML https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-1364-2324
       gives insight into the arrangements by which Met PCSOs paid for
       by TfL are usewd by TfL to enforce on Red Routes.
       #Post#: 26246--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: facade
       Date: June 16, 2024, 7:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Faust link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > I haven't parked on the red lines. I have attached a photo
       where I parked my car.
       > I was really surprised to see the police officer issuing a
       PCN.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have parked on red lines because the lines apply to the
       road, the pavement and the verge.
       You may only stop in a designated bay or because of traffic
       queues & signals.
       your ticket is for stopping on a red route, not parking on the
       pavement.
       #Post#: 26278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: Faust
       Date: June 16, 2024, 11:31 am
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       --- Quote from: facade link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Faust link=topic=2229.msg26237#msg26237
       date=1718534231]
       >
       >
       > I haven't parked on the red lines. I have attached a photo
       where I parked my car.
       > I was really surprised to see the police officer issuing a
       PCN.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have parked on red lines because the lines apply to the
       road, the pavement and the verge.
       You may only stop in a designated bay or because of traffic
       queues & signals.
       your ticket is for stopping on a red route, not parking on the
       pavement.
       [/quote]
       So there's no way to appeal or win this case? I wasn't aware
       about that.
       #Post#: 26334--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN by tfl police
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 16, 2024, 4:31 pm
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       [member=2005]Faust[/member] I think there may be plenty of
       grounds but you need to read the guidance here in full:
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
       Then post the PCN with no redactions, don't use this
       wetransfer.com nonsense (nobody wants to start opening loads of
       links), we need the PCN number and the number plate.
       The PCN was issued by a MET community support officer but they
       don't have a uniform that allows them to issue PCNs, so there's
       a procedural impropriety.
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