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       #Post#: 58606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: sparx Date: February 17, 2025, 12:10 pm
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       [quote author=coffee pot link=topic=2208.msg58434#msg58434
       date=1739746006]
       You need a front end/ triage process - what happened? when?
       leading people very gently through the process
       [/quote]
       You still need oversight, the general public are extremely
       unreliable in answering questions, no matter how simple they may
       be. Add to that confusion over what a document is (i.e. PCN,
       FPN, parking charge notice that COULD be a PCN because it has
       the same letters), etc.
       The design I had in mind was a flexible (graphical) wizard
       designer that could then produce a list of tabulated answers,
       simple conditionals to show/hide steps or go to a certain place
       in the wizard... so that those that know far more could actually
       design said questions and get the answers they want. It never
       got past the file upload/simple case preview stage as university
       comes first!
       #Post#: 58740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: NigelJK Date: February 18, 2025, 9:44 am
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       I'm hoping to begin with this will triage at the first instance,
       and end by creating a post or minimally a body of text that can
       be posted in a post. The text will have hidden tags so that it
       can be fed back in at a later date to continue.
       I've attached a VERY skeletal flow chart for members to comment
       on. I'll keep it up to date after each iteration, so may be a
       fresh thread would be better?
       Forgive Powerpoint it's issues converting to pdf, I'll sort that
       later.
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 58741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: Southpaw82 Date: February 18, 2025, 10:03 am
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       [quote author=NigelJK link=topic=2208.msg58740#msg58740
       date=1739893497] so may be a fresh thread would be better?
       [/quote]
       Go for it.
       #Post#: 61298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: Hippocrates Date: March 8, 2025, 5:48 am
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       Back to Kingston. Due to pressure from a certain person, they
       have now moved the camera to capture the reverse of all
       vehicles. This now ensures fairness to all and the likelihood of
       knocking into a lady with a pram or a cyclist is reduced!  8)
       #Post#: 61539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: majikd Date: March 9, 2025, 7:10 pm
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       [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=2208.msg25965#msg25965
       date=1718361089]
       The impulses behind my question were as follows:
       1. To encourage more motorists to fight their tickets - the
       general public. I did not wish to imply any direct involvement
       of this site or any individuals either.
       2. To cut through the general apathy of most recipients - for
       whatever reason - who simply pay up at the first stage.
       I have some ideas which would utilise media etc.
       On a personal note, of course I am available to do more appeals
       if requested. I also know my limitations and strengths.  ;) And,
       I am improving.  8)
       [/quote]
       I was planning to post something on Instagram once one of my
       appeals is concluded to raise awareness among friends and family
       (I’m confident of success, thanks to the excellent advice
       received! 😊).
       I’d like to reference the site if that’s okay. If there’s any
       standard messaging you’d recommend including, I’m happy to take
       suggestions—I actually found this thread while looking for
       guidance on that.
       One key point I’ll be highlighting is the time required to
       appeal. Unfortunately, for some, this can be the biggest barrier
       to pursuing an appeal, and it’s important to set realistic
       expectations. Otherwise, a rushed or unprepared appeal could end
       up being more costly in the long run.
       Any thoughts most welcome!
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       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: Hippocrates Date: March 30, 2025, 5:03 pm
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       Demo 7th April:
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/london-councils-pcn-rise-in-charges-and-fees/msg64903/#msg64903
       Please come if you are free.
       #Post#: 70738--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: Hippocrates Date: May 9, 2025, 2:27 pm
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       Well, I was wearing my silly hat in Waitrose tonight and have
       attracted more people to this site. They just do not how to
       fight for obvious reasons. Did a couple of videos too which I
       will publish in due course.
       #Post#: 70763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: Hippocrates Date: May 10, 2025, 4:51 am
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       Back to Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames. If you receive a
       ticket for a bus stop, please do not pay it!
  HTML https://youtu.be/kNIExXA0JyU
       #Post#: 75543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: fightinjustice Date: June 9, 2025, 8:49 am
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       [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=2208.msg26136#msg26136
       date=1718456843]
       Depending on how much it would cost to deploy such a programme,
       does it need to be commercially viable? Much as support for FTLA
       would be appreciated, it is currently financed by me (others do
       much of the running of the site though).
       [/quote]
       Hello,
       How can members support the forum please?  I was a user and
       supporter of pepipoo and think this forum is a very helpful and
       useful site.  Thanks.
       #Post#: 83709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
       By: LemonTootski Date: August 1, 2025, 9:40 am
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       En garde, Porthos !
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