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       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: dave-o
       Date: October 1, 2024, 4:30 am
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       --- Quote from: tasty_snacks link ---
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       > Ultimately, IMO, people just don't have the time to fight. But
       if provided with a free recourse system that was made abundantly
       clear from the offset, with the option of triage to weed out the
       no hopes, and if that was regulated to make sure it was clear on
       every single PCN, that's the only way more would be encouraged.
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       Sadly this is true, especially in the case of private invoices.
       If I add up the time used to bring a recent DCBL saga to a close
       it's along the lines of:
       - Informal appeal 30m
       - POPLA appeal 60m
       - Filing and ignoring 8 DCBL threats - 8m
       - Initial response to court filing - 30m
       - Understanding , drafting and filing full defence - 180m
       - Being on hold to CNBC - 45m
       - Tidying up (confirmation of discontinuance, removal of data
       request) - 20m
       Total: almost 5 hours
       If I consider the original invoice was for £40, I am effectively
       working for about £8 an hour.  I would do better to pay the
       invoice and do a half day shift at McDonald's.
       There really should be some kind of financial jeopardy for the
       PPC/agent.
       Personally for me the principle is worth more than the
       time/money, so I will always fight.  But if I was more
       pragmatic, as most normal people are, I would probably have to
       conclude that it's not worth fighting the whole way.
       #Post#: 41917--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: October 22, 2024, 3:55 pm
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       #Post#: 42099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 23, 2024, 2:37 pm
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       Surely we should target the whole of the UK rather than just
       London specifically?
       #Post#: 42100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: October 23, 2024, 2:50 pm
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       > Surely we should target the whole of the UK rather than just
       London specifically?
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       It is in the text.  I will do another one tomorrow before I fly
       back. It has been a hectic break.
       #Post#: 42137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: dave-o
       Date: October 24, 2024, 5:42 am
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       I love that you are in an actual forum in that video!
       #Post#: 42234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: October 24, 2024, 10:19 pm
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       Was the queue at the High Street kebab shop that long that it
       was quicker to go to Greece to get one??
       #Post#: 42449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: October 26, 2024, 6:13 am
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       I have got a shirt for our administrator too.
       #Post#: 42452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: October 26, 2024, 6:30 am
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
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       > Was the queue at the High Street kebab shop that long that it
       was quicker to go to Greece to get one??
       >
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       Hey Roy. No pun intended; but, it was a busman's holiday for the
       most part! Violin + cases + appeals.  :) Some swimming, sunning
       et al.
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       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 26, 2024, 9:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > I have got a shirt for our administrator too.
       >
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       There's two of us, but I'm not sure how keen
       [member=4]Southpaw82[/member] is on getting one?
       #Post#: 42503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: October 26, 2024, 9:53 am
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       good job they aren't trousers as they would need 3 legs. (not a
       reference to Rolf)
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