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#Post#: 26596--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: Neil B
Date: June 18, 2024, 12:35 pm
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council
notices?
#Post#: 26598--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: RhysGrif
Date: June 18, 2024, 1:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> [quote author=RhysGrif link=topic=2199.msg26594#msg26594
date=1718731832]
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=2199.msg26592#msg26592
date=1718730975]
> That tells me, from a brief glance, that your deadline for
payment was actually the 26th!
>
--- End Quote ---
So the date that I paid my PCN?
[/quote]
You don't rush into anything yet!
Have you actually paid the bailiff?
[/quote]
Hello,
Yes as my car was clamped at 6:20 in the morning first thing
yesterday. I didn't expect them to come back so soon as I don't
understand the process of all this. This is the first parking
ticket I've ever had.
#Post#: 26599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: RhysGrif
Date: June 18, 2024, 1:06 pm
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council
notices?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello,
My address is correct on the notes however, I have noticed page
4 & 8 of the documents their system have registered the payment
being received at 27/11 21:30. I have the receipt of my payment
that was made on the 26/11 17:30.
#Post#: 26601--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: Neil B
Date: June 18, 2024, 1:52 pm
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--- Quote from: RhysGrif link ---
>
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=2199.msg26596#msg26596
date=1718732146]
> Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council
notices?
>
--- End Quote ---
I have the receipt of my payment that was made on the 26/11
17:30.
[/quote]
So for completeness, can we see that please.
One of my colleagues is going to be looking at your case later
tonight.
#Post#: 26603--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: Neil B
Date: June 18, 2024, 1:59 pm
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--- Quote from: RhysGrif link ---
>
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=2199.msg26596#msg26596
date=1718732146]
> Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council
notices?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello,
My address is correct on the notes however[/quote]
Really? So how did so many notices go missing and yet the
bailiff notices didn't??
#Post#: 26607--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: RhysGrif
Date: June 18, 2024, 2:38 pm
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> [quote author=RhysGrif link=topic=2199.msg26599#msg26599
date=1718734014]
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=2199.msg26596#msg26596
date=1718732146]
> Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council
notices?
>
--- End Quote ---
I have the receipt of my payment that was made on the 26/11
17:30.
[/quote]
So for completeness, can we see that please.
One of my colleagues is going to be looking at your case later
tonight.
[/quote]
Hello,
I've attached the receipt image for my payment from Swansea
council.
HTML https://ibb.co/g7VLwrD
#Post#: 26608--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: RhysGrif
Date: June 18, 2024, 2:42 pm
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> [quote author=RhysGrif link=topic=2199.msg26599#msg26599
date=1718734014]
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=2199.msg26596#msg26596
date=1718732146]
> Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council
notices?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello,
My address is correct on the notes however[/quote]
Really? So how did so many notices go missing and yet the
bailiff notices didn't??
[/quote]
Hello,
It does sound extremely far fetched however, I have and can 100%
confidently say that I have never received or seen the 'Charge
Certificate' & 'TE3 Order For Recovery' from the council. The
PDF file is the first time that I have seen these documents.
Hence, why I am only now joining this forum and asking for
advice as I have not known any of this information.
#Post#: 26611--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 18, 2024, 3:14 pm
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Their evidence:
A NTO with date of posting of 26 Oct 2023. A Thursday.
A NTO issued pursuant to the Civil Enforcement etc. Wales Regs
2013 which provides:
Unless the contrary is proved, service of a notice or charge
certificate contained in a letter sent by first class post which
has been properly addressed, pre-paid and posted is to be taken
to have been effected on the second working day after the day of
posting.
(3) In paragraph (2), “working day” means any day except-
(a)a Saturday or a Sunday;
The purported 'Date of Service' in the NTO is Saturday 28th Oct.
This cannot be.
The date of service in law was 30 Oct. which gives a latest date
for payment of 27 Nov.
So you have valid grounds for a WS.
But OP, your OOT reasons need to convince, but so far my reading
is that they don't.
As I understand it, you live with your parents and it is their
address which you've given to DVLA - perfectly proper because
you live there.
So, were you actually at home when the OfR was delivered?
#Post#: 26613--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: RhysGrif
Date: June 18, 2024, 3:22 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Their evidence:
>
> A NTO with date of posting of 26 Oct 2023. A Thursday.
>
> A NTO issued pursuant to the Civil Enforcement etc. Wales Regs
2013 which provides:
>
> Unless the contrary is proved, service of a notice or charge
certificate contained in a letter sent by first class post which
has been properly addressed, pre-paid and posted is to be taken
to have been effected on the second working day after the day of
posting.
>
> (3) In paragraph (2), “working day” means any day except-
>
> (a)a Saturday or a Sunday;
>
> The purported 'Date of Service' in the NTO is Saturday 28th
Oct. This cannot be.
>
> The date of service in law was 30 Oct. which gives a latest
date for payment of 27 Nov.
>
> So you have valid grounds for a WS.
>
>
> But OP, your OOT reasons need to convince, but so far my
reading is that they don't.
>
> As I understand it, you live with your parents and it is their
address which you've given to DVLA - perfectly proper because
you live there.
>
> So, were you actually at home when the OfR was delivered?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello,
Yes I thought that the 28 day period would not include weekends
and it would only be valid for 28 working days.
What is the 'OOT' & 'OfR'
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Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 18, 2024, 3:37 pm
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Out of time and Order for Recovery.
And the answer to my question is?
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