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#Post#: 30690--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: July 22, 2024, 8:38 am
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--- Quote from: Phantomcrusader link ---
>
> If the online options has this one "the penalty charge
exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case"
then select it instead. Whatever you select or submit, they have
a duty to consider.
>
--- End Quote ---
It only has the following options to choose, which would be best
suited?
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle and the driver at the
time of the contravention
I am not the registered keeper of this vehicle but was the
driver at the time of the contravention
I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of the
contravention I sold or bought the vehicle before or after the
time of the contravention)
We are a Hire and Lease company
#Post#: 30894--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: July 23, 2024, 8:16 pm
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[member=629]Phantomcrusader[/member] or
[member=629]cp8759[/member]
Can you please advise on the above as I’d like to take action
today as it’s getting close to end date for rep :-[
#Post#: 30902--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 24, 2024, 3:08 am
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--- Quote from: D D link ---
>
> [quote author=Phantomcrusader
link=topic=2173.msg30677#msg30677 date=1721651453]
> If the online options has this one "the penalty charge
exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case"
then select it instead. Whatever you select or submit, they have
a duty to consider.
>
--- End Quote ---
It only has the following options to choose, which would be best
suited?
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle and the driver at the
time of the contravention
I am not the registered keeper of this vehicle but was the
driver at the time of the contravention
I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of the
contravention I sold or bought the vehicle before or after the
time of the contravention)
We are a Hire and Lease company
[/quote]
Are you sure selecting one of these does not go to a screen with
the list of statutory grounds for appeals ?
Select the one above that applies and tell us what happens.
#Post#: 30945--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: July 24, 2024, 5:55 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=D D link=topic=2173.msg30690#msg30690
date=1721655497]
> [quote author=Phantomcrusader
link=topic=2173.msg30677#msg30677 date=1721651453]
> If the online options has this one "the penalty charge
exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case"
then select it instead. Whatever you select or submit, they have
a duty to consider.
>
--- End Quote ---
It only has the following options to choose, which would be best
suited?
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle and the driver at the
time of the contravention
I am not the registered keeper of this vehicle but was the
driver at the time of the contravention
I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of the
contravention I sold or bought the vehicle before or after the
time of the contravention)
We are a Hire and Lease company
[/quote]
Are you sure selecting one of these does not go to a screen with
the list of statutory grounds for appeals ?
Select the one above that applies and tell us what happens.
[/quote]
I chose not owner but driver at time of contravention and the
following has appeared,
Contravention Code34
Contravention Being in a bus lane (during the hours of operation
of the bus lane)
Please use the box below to provide information to support your
representation. You can also upload supporting documents to help
the Council decide what action to take in relation to this
Penalty Charge Notice.
Additional information
Your Notes…
I will enter what has been specified here in the bits section
and submit
#Post#: 30951--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: July 24, 2024, 6:08 am
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Submitted the following,
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2q62Lvy
Sorry I’m not very good at arching images
#Post#: 32416--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: August 6, 2024, 7:18 am
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I have received correspondence which is attached via the link
bellow, thank to your support this far.
They have taken to account from my representation that I have
paid. (Which we know I haven’t)
They are now asking when was the payment made so they can
investigate this further.
They request documentary evidence within 14 days or payment of
£30 within the same time period.
(My representation went past the 50% payment reduction and they
are still honouring it)
Appreciate your input in advance!
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2q8tXRA
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2q8tXRA
#Post#: 32871--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: August 10, 2024, 7:54 am
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[member=629]cp8759[/member]
[member=629]Incandescent[/member]
Hi any idea with the above?
Thanks
#Post#: 32906--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 10, 2024, 1:44 pm
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--- Quote from: D D link ---
>
> [member=629]cp8759[/member]
> [member=629]Incandescent[/member]
>
> Hi any idea with the above?
>
> Thanks
>
--- End Quote ---
I looked at what you say are your reps, but there seems to be
noting there from yourself, it is all just a listing and
description of the statutory grounds for an appeal. Something
obviously wrong.
I suggest you write back and tell them that you have not paid
the PCN, and never even hinted at payment in the reps. Tell them
that your representations text does not seem to appear on their
website.
You'd best decide now whether to pay up or take them to the
Traffic Penalty Tribunal, so your letter can also say whether
you have decided to pay now ans provide proof of payment, or
that you will be registering an appeal at TPT, in view of their
failure correctly to deal with your representations.
#Post#: 33169--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: August 12, 2024, 5:56 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=D D link=topic=2173.msg32871#msg32871
date=1723294450]
> [member=629]cp8759[/member]
> [member=629]Incandescent[/member]
>
> Hi any idea with the above?
>
> Thanks
>
--- End Quote ---
I looked at what you say are your reps, but there seems to be
noting there from yourself, it is all just a listing and
description of the statutory grounds for an appeal. Something
obviously wrong.
I suggest you write back and tell them that you have not paid
the PCN, and never even hinted at payment in the reps. Tell them
that your representations text does not seem to appear on their
website.
You'd best decide now whether to pay up or take them to the
Traffic Penalty Tribunal, so your letter can also say whether
you have decided to pay now ans provide proof of payment, or
that you will be registering an appeal at TPT, in view of their
failure correctly to deal with your representations.
[/quote]
For the amount of time this has taken from us this far and for
more time needed for traffic tribunal I think I might just let
this one pass and pay the £30. Seems the more cost effective way
this time, if it was a lot more I would put up bit more of a
fight. Agree?
#Post#: 33170--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 12, 2024, 6:10 pm
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Well, of course paying give you closure. On the other hand, it
gives them an albeit small sum of money for their incompetence.
I know what I would be doing, but it's your decision.
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