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#Post#: 26491--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: June 17, 2024, 7:04 pm
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Ok so should my first move be to get the lease company to
transfer liability to me then make the simple "did not occur"
representation?
Or
Get the lease agreement, including the small print before doing
anything?s
Thanks again
#Post#: 26499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 17, 2024, 7:22 pm
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--- Quote from: D D link ---
>
> Ok so should my first move be to get the lease company to
transfer liability to me then make the simple "did not occur"
representation?
>
--- End Quote ---
I suspect the lease company has already requested a transfer of
liability, but get them to confirm.
#Post#: 26852--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: June 20, 2024, 3:45 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=D D link=topic=2173.msg26491#msg26491
date=1718669075]
> Ok so should my first move be to get the lease company to
transfer liability to me then make the simple "did not occur"
representation?
>
--- End Quote ---
I suspect the lease company has already requested a transfer of
liability, but get them to confirm.
[/quote]
I have received a letter from the lease company stating they
have given my details to the authority transferring liability to
myself.
I have continued with the next stage of submitting the
representation of “it did not occur”
I entered my details also to the representation.
@cp8759
#Post#: 27208--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 23, 2024, 4:45 am
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It's not clear whether you've actually received anything from
the council? The case history suggests the council hasn't even
processed the lease company's request:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/AtVhJo6.png
This means that when a new PCN is issued to you, you will have
to respond regardless of the fact that you've made
representations already, that is because whatever you sent now
would not have been in response to a PCN served on you; when the
PCN is served on you you're required to respond regardless of
what might have come before. There's no point in jumping the gun
with these statutory procedures.
#Post#: 27318--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: June 23, 2024, 6:13 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> It's not clear whether you've actually received anything from
the council? The case history suggests the council hasn't even
processed the lease company's request:
>
>
> This means that when a new PCN is issued to you, you will have
to respond regardless of the fact that you've made
representations already, that is because whatever you sent now
would not have been in response to a PCN served on you; when the
PCN is served on you you're required to respond regardless of
what might have come before. There's no point in jumping the gun
with these statutory procedures.
>
--- End Quote ---
I have not yet received anything directly from MCC.
I will email the lease company today and ask if the transfer has
been completed.
The PCN I was issued at the start are ones received by the lease
company from MCC.
I will await a new PCN in my title from MCC and will update as
soon as it arrives.
I appreciate your close eye on this case sir.
#Post#: 27520--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: June 25, 2024, 6:00 pm
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I have had correspondence from the lease company and they
confirmed liability was transferred on the 10.06.24
#Post#: 27625--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 26, 2024, 4:30 pm
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--- Quote from: D D link ---
>
> I have had correspondence from the lease company and they
confirmed liability was transferred on the 10.06.24
>
--- End Quote ---
Ask them if they've received anything else from the council
since then.
#Post#: 27854--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: June 28, 2024, 10:03 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=D D link=topic=2173.msg27520#msg27520
date=1719356414]
> I have had correspondence from the lease company and they
confirmed liability was transferred on the 10.06.24
>
--- End Quote ---
Ask them if they've received anything else from the council
since then.
[/quote]
I have now received a PCN in my details today.
Date of this pcn is now 27.06.24
Date previous pcn was cancelled 26.06.24
What shall the next move be on this one?
Shall I still find out if the lease company received anything
back from the transfer?
#Post#: 28001--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 30, 2024, 9:35 am
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[member=629]D D[/member] well the obvious next step is to make a
representation saying the contravention did not occur, this
should be done within 14 days from the date of issue to ensure
the discount is reoffered. I know the discount period is 21
days, but we have no reliable data to say whether the discount
will be extended if you make representations between days 15 and
21. Making representations on day 14 from the date of issue (not
service) would be the safest approach that buys the most time.
That being said, to know your chances on appeal to the tribunal
(where the discount is off the table and it's all or nothing) we
need to see the terms and conditions of the lease agreement, I'm
not sure we've seen this yet?
Just redact your personal details and make sure to include all
the small print in the terms and conditions.
You also want to know if the hire company received anything from
the council, if they did not then you need this to be confirmed
in writing.
#Post#: 28762--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council Oxford Road Bus Lane Intervention
DIR By: D D
Date: July 5, 2024, 1:39 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
>
> That being said, to know your chances on appeal to the
tribunal (where the discount is off the table and it's all or
nothing) we need to see the terms and conditions of the lease
agreement, I'm not sure we've seen this yet?
>
> Just redact your personal details and make sure to include all
the small print in the terms and conditions.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=629]cp8759[/member]
I have attached the policy I have received from which is the DB
link below.
Let me know your thoughts?
I have noted the date in diary for the representation reminder
..
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/knixs9376bcu7k2q3v6r5/EV-Car-Policy-Febuary-2023.pdf?rlkey=i7dtxqk8f0f0y96ydmph64al1&dl=0
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/knixs9376bcu7k2q3v6r5/EV-Car-Policy-Febuary-2023.pdf?rlkey=i7dtxqk8f0f0y96ydmph64al1&dl=0
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