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#Post#: 25212--------------------------------------------------
PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: OopsForgotMyBadge
Date: June 7, 2024, 9:52 am
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Hi,
Location:
Tower Retail Park in Crayford: Google Maps Link
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4507598,0.1803008,3a,75y,246.17h,43.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siwCzpunNTtdlAnHjRloAlQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DiwCzpunNTtdlAnHjRloAlQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D246.16717078249664%26pitch%3D46.92192884739144%26thumbfov%3D90!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205410&entry=ttu<br
/>(I believe this to be the space driver parked in as the other
disabled spaces in the car park have blue paint in the space.)
Pictures of PCN:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/SCY95zF
Driver parked in a disabled access bay with a passenger who
holds a blue badge (wheelchair user). Driver forgot to display
blue badge after parking up and assembling the wheelchair and I
received a PCN through the post 3 weeks later from GroupNexus.
What are the chances that I (the registered owner) can appeal
this? Can I send a picture of the blue badge and explain the
circumstances? How likely is an appeal of this nature to be
accepted?
Thanks!
#Post#: 25213--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: b789
Date: June 7, 2024, 10:01 am
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Please give us a bit more information. This thread tells you
what we need to see and how to show it:
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
#Post#: 25220--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: OopsForgotMyBadge
Date: June 7, 2024, 11:16 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Please give us a bit more information. This thread tells you
what we need to see and how to show it:
>
> READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi, thanks for the information. I've updated the post with I
believe all of the relevant information.
#Post#: 25226--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: June 7, 2024, 12:06 pm
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You're in luck - they're not seeking to hold you liable as the
keeper, using the provisions of the Protection of Freedoms Act.
Therefore only the driver is liable, and they don't know who
that is.
You could appeal along the lines of the following, if you are
the registered keeper of the vehicle (if you aren't, tell us):
[indent]Dear Sirs,
I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for
vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the
driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your
correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the
registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a
compliant Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is
now too late for you to do so.
There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not
be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this
matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge
has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you
must issue a POPLA code.
Yours,[/indent]
If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick
boxes that cause you to identify who was driving, you're
appealing as the keeper, and keep a close eye on your spam
folder for their response. If they do not respond within 35
days, chase them.
#Post#: 25230--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: b789
Date: June 7, 2024, 12:34 pm
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Personally, I'd use a shorter version that has succeeded many
many times:
--- Quote ---
> This is an appeal by the registered keeper - No driver details
will be given. Please do NOT try the usual Group Nexus trick of
asking for driver details in order to get around the fact your
NtK does not comply with PoFA. As there is no keeper liability,
therefore, liability cannot flow from the driver to the keeper
and so, is an automatic win at POPLA. Please cancel the notice
or issue a POPLA code at which point you will auto withdraw.
--- End Quote ---
The choice is yours. Please remember, under no circumstances do
you reveal the identity of the driver otherwise this "Golden
Ticket" is flushed down the loo.
#Post#: 25232--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: OopsForgotMyBadge
Date: June 7, 2024, 12:57 pm
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Thank you for the responses. I hadn't expected it to be so cut
and dry, I will go ahead with the shorter message.
#Post#: 25234--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: June 7, 2024, 1:04 pm
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They both serve the same purpose. Let us know how you get on.
GN seem to go through phases of cancelling at the first appeal,
or dragging folks to POPLA.
#Post#: 25235--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: b789
Date: June 7, 2024, 1:06 pm
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If it does go to POPLA, be comforted in the knowledge that it
will have cost GN £35 for the POPLA fee which they pay if they
don't withdraw before the assessment.
#Post#: 26977--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Group Nexus
DIR By: Colin_S
Date: June 21, 2024, 8:35 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Personally, I'd use a shorter version that has succeeded many
many times:
>
> [quote]This is an appeal by the registered keeper - No driver
details will be given. Please do NOT try the usual Group Nexus
trick of asking for driver details in order to get around the
fact your NtK does not comply with PoFA. As there is no keeper
liability, therefore, liability cannot flow from the driver to
the keeper and so, is an automatic win at POPLA. Please cancel
the notice or issue a POPLA code at which point you will auto
withdraw.
--- End Quote ---
The choice is yours. Please remember, under no circumstances do
you reveal the identity of the driver otherwise this "Golden
Ticket" is flushed down the loo.
[/quote]
Copied and pasted for my appeal and for exactly the same
location :)
Hopefully not breaking the once case per thread rule lol
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