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#Post#: 47279--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: terminator x
Date: November 27, 2024, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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> I'm unclear. Do you accept that you cannot insinuate yourself
into these proceedings or not?
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I do but they will never know as there are no face to face
meetings. Even if there were, my son lives at home so I'd just
take him along.
TX.
#Post#: 47280--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 27, 2024, 9:16 am
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I'm out.
#Post#: 47862--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: terminator x
Date: December 2, 2024, 7:34 am
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Ok apologies to H C Andersen, I do understand what he is saying
albeit I did not realize that at the time. As it turns out the
LA did use the fact that I replied instead of my son to reject
the appeal however the paperwork did not turn up (they allege it
was emailed).
So today the LA sent some new paperwork giving me / us 14d to
pay the original £55 or if not paid then the original paperwork
will kick back in with no ability to contest it other than the
TE9 paperwork that someone suggested above, see below:
HTML https://ibb.co/xLqzjd7
All advice appreciated.
TX.
#Post#: 47876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 2, 2024, 9:11 am
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Thank you.
IMO, your son cannot submit a TE9 - Witness Statement - unless
one of the limited grounds applies. These have been set out in
their reply.
The only one which could apply is 'Did not receive the NTO', but
of course this depends upon whether the NTO was received. The
NTO was issued on 30 July, which ties in with their response to
the informal challenge dated 8 July. Their letter also refers to
'3rd party representations' being made on 30 Aug, which (sort
of) ties in with with the NTO (albeit the reps were made late)
but these were not disregarded for lateness, but were for
invalidity because they were not made by the addressee on the
NTO.
If the above is correct, then the NTO was received and a TE9 may
not lawfully be made because your son would be making a false
declaration and therefore subject to prosecution - this isn't
being written to frighten or intimidate, it's the law and I see
no reason to sugar-coat this reality.
So, no TE9 = min. charge of £165 unless their offer of paying
£55 is accepted.
Others will have views.
#Post#: 49548--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: terminator x
Date: December 12, 2024, 12:39 pm
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Hi there. Have I run out of options so just need to pay the £55?
Last day to pay that is Monday next week.
Just for the benefit of H C Andersen the NTO was never received,
not by email and not by post.
TX.
#Post#: 49566--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 12, 2024, 3:06 pm
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[member=1938]terminator x[/member] I would say do not pay. I
have complained to the council about their website and received
dubious responses from the parking manager. Notwithstanding they
have now changed the web pages. I say continue. If I represent
you, I will use them. And they know that full well.
But, you must use the statutory process.
#Post#: 49589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 12, 2024, 5:07 pm
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I've explaned the law. If your son wishes to sign a declaration
which includes a statement of truth then this is his choice.
#Post#: 49684--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 13, 2024, 12:38 pm
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--- Quote from: terminator x link ---
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> Ok apologies to H C Andersen, I do understand what he is
saying albeit I did not realize that at the time. As it turns
out the LA did use the fact that I replied instead of my son to
reject the appeal however the paperwork did not turn up (they
allege it was emailed).
>
--- End Quote ---
I think you'd better pay the £55 if you still can. Despite the
Notice to Owner saying in bold lettering "Do not pass to the
driver", you ignored that and challenged it as the driver.
Unfortunately not reading the notice is not a defence and in the
circumstances, it's too late for the keeper to make
representations.
For clarify the authority did not reject your representations,
it disregarded them because you have no right to make
representations against a Notice to Owner that is not addressed
to you. All you needed to do to avoid this situation was to
provide a letter of authority with the representations signed by
your son, if you'd asked us at the time we would have told you
to do this. Unfortunately it seems you just made the
representations in your own name without checking with us, and I
don't see how you can record from that.
In the circumstances paying the £55 now is likely to be the
least painful option.
#Post#: 50030--------------------------------------------------
Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
12] [30 May 24]
DIR By: terminator x
Date: December 15, 2024, 7:36 pm
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Ok, thanks all.
TX.
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