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       #Post#: 29162--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 8, 2024, 3:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: terminator x link ---
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       > Is it worth fighting at all as if I wait for the NTO it will
       be £110 fine vs £55 if paid early. Thanks all.
       >
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       If you wait for the notice to owner and then challenge it within
       14 days of the date of issue, the council will normally reoffer
       the discount even if they reject.
       That being said there might be a winning technical argument
       based on the information given on the council website, but I can
       only check this properly once you get the notice to owner. The
       cases on rows 593 to 609 here
  HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037&range=A593<br
       />explain the issue.
       #Post#: 32008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: terminator x
       Date: August 2, 2024, 1:48 pm
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       @cp8759
       NTO has arrived, link below:
  HTML https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:43b6f959-6bcf-4ef2-848e-7900a8798052<br
       />
       TX.
       #Post#: 32453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: terminator x
       Date: August 6, 2024, 11:06 am
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       Hi all.
       Any views on the attached file? 14d is up Tue next week!
       TX.
       #Post#: 32776--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: terminator x
       Date: August 9, 2024, 4:24 am
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       So above someone said "OK well the best hope is that the traffic
       order doesn't exist, and then it's open and shut."
       How do I find and check the TO?
       TX.
       #Post#: 34349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: terminator x
       Date: August 23, 2024, 10:44 am
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       Hi all.
       Any views on the attached file? 28d is up Tue next week! Fine
       now back up at £110 ...
       [member=1]cp8759[/member] can you help at all?
       TX.
       #Post#: 34455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: August 24, 2024, 8:34 am
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       [member=1938]terminator x[/member] I'm sorry you haven't had a
       reply earlier, unfortunately unless someone PMs me or tags me in
       the thread (as you did yesterday) I don't have time to check
       every thread, there's just too many tribunal cases I have to
       deal with.
       I put the traffic order in reply 8 above, it clearly does exist
       and there are no issues with it that I could identify. That
       being said, the council website is pants:
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/U6m7jkf.png
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/LdE2mGp.png
       This should therefore be an easy win, to see why have a look at
       the cases on rows 623 to 641 here
  HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037&range=A623.
       For now you just need to make a representation saying that the
       alleged contravention did not occur (don't add anything else),
       we know the council will reject anything you say so there's no
       point in wasting any time on this. Once you have a notice of
       rejection it should be a straightforward appeal to the tribunal.
       #Post#: 34721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: terminator x
       Date: August 27, 2024, 10:21 am
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       Super thanks. Contested it today.
       TX.
       #Post#: 34725--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: August 27, 2024, 11:58 am
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       What have you written please?
       #Post#: 46700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: terminator x
       Date: November 22, 2024, 2:08 pm
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       Odd this as I contested it, then heard nothing for ages and now
       they have sent a Charge Certificate having received nothing in
       between. See below:
  HTML https://ibb.co/sjDQxnF
  HTML https://ibb.co/Nxcgvqy
       Sounds bad. Can anyone help?
       TX.
       Edit - below is what I sent contesting it (this is the copy they
       sent me of what I sent them) and as I say they never replied
       and/or I never got a reply until today.
       Contest a Penalty Charge Notice
       Dear xxx
       Your form has been submitted.
       Your case will be placed on hold until you hear from us.
       If you need to contact us in the meantime, please quote your PCN
       notice number and vehicle registration number. To find out more
       about the appeal process, visit
       www.richmond.gov.uk/how_to_appeal_pcn
       Your reference: FS-Case-641738628
       Notice number: RT42129100
       Vehicle registration: xxx
       Date of issue: 30/05/2024
       Location: BROOM PARK TEDDINGTON (CPZ X1)
       Explain why you think the PCN should not have been issued: The
       alleged contravention did not occur
       Upload copies of any supporting evidence:
       Your details
       Title: Mr.
       First name: xxx
       Last name: xxx
       Initials: x
       Email: xxx
       Address
       Postcode:  xxx
       Select the address: xxx
       Are you the owner of the vehicle: No
       Vehicle owner details
       Title: Mr
       First name: xxx
       Address
       Postcode: xxx
       Postcode: Select the address: xxx
       #Post#: 46707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Broom Park Teddington, PCN for parked in a resi zone [code
       12] [30 May 24]
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: November 22, 2024, 3:27 pm
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       It should be possible to obtain a reset.
       While waiting for the experts to come along, have a read of
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-notic/
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