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#Post#: 7154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 10, 2023, 6:24 pm
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[member=12]Incandescent[/member] no, this is a London bus lane
PCN so in the first instance we need to wait for the enforcement
notice and then make formal representations against that.
The council has confirmed that:
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All our ANPR cameras are LaneWatch MARK 3.
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Of course whether they could prove that in a hearing is another
matter.
#Post#: 7159--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 10, 2023, 7:05 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [member=12]Incandescent[/member] no, this is a London bus lane
PCN so in the first instance we need to wait for the enforcement
notice and then make formal representations against that.
>
> The council has confirmed that:
>
> [indent]
> All our ANPR cameras are LaneWatch MARK 3.
> [/indent]
>
> Of course whether they could prove that in a hearing is
another matter.
>
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Silly me, of course it is ! This just shows you what a Dog's
Breakfast the whole of traffic law is in this country.
#Post#: 7524--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: rowlando
Date: October 16, 2023, 7:18 am
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If I formally challenge, will you guys help me?
I've looked through London Tribunals and found 3 x "being in a
bus lane" contraventions that were successfully appealled. 1
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/>2
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Can I work out if the prescribed device reason will work for me
ahead of time? Or is it a roll of the dice?
Also, I noticed a lot of successful appeals have this reason:
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> The Enforcement Authority has informed me that they will not
contest your appeal against the Penalty Charge Notice(s)
mentioned above.
>
> The Chief Adjudicator has therefore allowed your appeal
without considering your evidence or any details of the case.
You are not liable for any further charge(s) and, where
appropriate, any amounts already paid will be refunded by the
Enforcement Authority.
--- End Quote ---
Good outcome, but why does the enforcement authority back down?
If my odds are more than 50% of a successful appeal, I'm happy
to continue.
#Post#: 7630--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 17, 2023, 12:12 pm
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The process is that you are sent an enforcement notice, you make
formal representations against that, and then the council
rejects but usually reoffers the discount.
It's only at that stage that you are able to appeal to the
tribunal, if you carry on we will help you every step of the way
and at the tribunal stage one of us will usually offer to
represent you. We cannot guarantee the outcome, but I don't
think we've lost a bus lane case since the summer of 2021.
#Post#: 13419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: rowlando
Date: January 7, 2024, 10:55 am
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So it looks like I've messed things up. I received an
enforcement notice on 08/11/2023 but I "filed it" and forgot to
reply as life was happening. Here they are:
[attach=1][attach=2]
I received a charge certificate on 03/01/2024. Here it is:
[attach=3][attach=4]
Is it too late? Do I now need to pay £195?
Thanks.
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#Post#: 13420--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 7, 2024, 12:44 pm
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If you made no representations against the EN, yes, to have to
pay it.
#Post#: 13445--------------------------------------------------
Re: Merton, code 34J being in a bus lane, Wimbledon Hill Road
SW19, Date of notice 10/07/23
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 8, 2024, 5:03 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> If you made no representations against the EN, yes, to have to
pay it.
>
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The 18th is the absolute deadline so I suggest paying it well
before then.
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