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Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 31, 2024, 8:27 am
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+1 Plus:
This will be another case for the Tribunal regarding their
website grounds:
Parking
Not parked correctly within the marking of the bay or space
We will consider your appeal according to our appeals policy. If
your reason for appeal is not listed in the policy, we are
unlikely to accept it. However we will still consider your case
individually.
Pay and Display (P&D) or Cashless
The following circumstances are relating to scenarios involving
P&D tickets or cashless parking sessions.
Select a reason:
I had a Pay and Display (P&D) ticket
I made a mistake when purchasing my Pay and Display (P&D) ticket
I paid by phone or app
I was in a rush and forgot to pay
The Pay and Display machine was not working and I couldn't
purchase a Pay and Display (P&D) ticket
Permits
The following circumstances are relating to scenarios involving
parking permits.
Select a reason:
I had a permit
Blue Badge
The following circumstances are relating to scenarios involving
Blue Badges
Select a reason:
I had a Blue Badge on display
Emergency / beyond driver's control
Reasons that relate to something unexpected happening to the
motorist that must be seen to immediately
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I became unwell while driving
I parked at the location because my child needed the toilet
I stopped because of an emergency situation
My passenger became unwell while I was driving
My vehicle had broken down
My vehicle was cloned
My vehicle was stolen
Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) wrongly / unfairly issued
Reasons where it may appear that the PCN was issued unfairly or
incorrectly.
Select a reason:
I have already paid the PCN
I only stopped for a few minutes
I was not the owner of the vehicle
I was only a few minutes late back to my vehicle
I was unaware of the rules
The vehicle was on hire to someone else
There was nowhere else to park
Other
Other reasons we have received that do not fall into one of the
above categories.
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I did not cause an obstruction
I didn't see any signs or lines
I was loading / unloading at the time
I was picking up / dropping off a passenger
My vehicle is a taxi
None of the above
If none of the above reasons apply, and you wish to challenge
your PCN, please select below:
Select a reason:
Any other reason
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procedural impropriety
Suggested reasons for 'procedural impropriety'
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penalty exceeded amount
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vehicle was taken without consent
Suggested reasons for 'vehicle was taken without consent'
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The last three attempts are statutory grounds! As are the ones
below.
I am free if this goes to the Tribunal. I am pretty bored at
present. ;D I have used the Scrabble metaphor once with Mr
Harman. ;D 2240304431
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invalid traffic order
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had ceased to be its owner before the alleged contravention
occurre
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alleged contravention occurre'
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became its owner after the alleged contravention occurred
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contravention occurred'
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at the time that the alleged contravention occurred, the vehicle
in question was in the control of a person who did not have the
consent of the owner
Suggested reasons for 'at the time that the alleged
contravention occurred, the vehicle in question was in the
control of a person who did not have the consent of the owner'
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#Post#: 35171--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: Lefeuvre76
Date: August 31, 2024, 1:20 pm
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Here is the second page as requested.
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#Post#: 35172--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 31, 2024, 2:15 pm
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First line is bolleaux. Wait for the Notice to Owner is my
advice.
#Post#: 35173--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: roythebus
Date: August 31, 2024, 2:23 pm
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Like most other government forms, no space for "it's our
cock-up" or similar.
#Post#: 35174--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 31, 2024, 2:48 pm
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Their history re their bus lane cases precedes them. They need
fully-trained parking appeals staff. And a magnanimous council
leader.
Another open secret: their moving traffic PCNs currently are
flawed too.
#Post#: 35185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 31, 2024, 4:30 pm
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[member=1903]Lefeuvre76[/member] just wait for the notice to
owner and let us know as soon as you get it.
#Post#: 39486--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: Lefeuvre76
Date: October 5, 2024, 8:20 am
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I have finally been sent the Notice To Owner after weeks. I
attach links to all 3 pages of what I was sent. I was unable to
post the images directly.
I really appreciate all the time and effort people have put in
to advising me so far so I would be grateful for everyone's
input on what the next steps would be now please?
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#Post#: 39503--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: boggler
Date: October 5, 2024, 12:05 pm
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I had one of these rejected by Bromley Council at the initial
stage last year. I think they just cut and paste . It was only
at the second stage (where you are now) that they backed down. I
think it was the first time they had looked at it properly. If I
were you, I'd also be arguing that this case is vexatious as it
was clearly a Sunday outside restricted times and therefore the
operative was seeking financial gain rather than enforcing
effective parking control measures.
#Post#: 39514--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 5, 2024, 5:00 pm
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[member=1903]Lefeuvre76[/member] frankly I'd just resubmit your
informal representations as your formal representations.
Again make representations online and keep a screenshot of the
confirmation page.
#Post#: 43636--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking in Bromley borough on a Sunday. Can I fight this?!
DIR By: Lefeuvre76
Date: November 2, 2024, 10:06 am
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I have now had a reply and they are sticking to their guns.
Essentially it doesn't matter that it was a Sunday so no signs
were necessary. The main thrust seems to be that despite their
acknowledgment that the markings are faded (an understatement)
the car was parked outside the lines to the PCN is enforceable.
I would be very grateful for your thoughts on what I should do
next? Pay the fine and be done with it or go to court.
I attach the entire letter for your consideration. @cp8759 your
input has been invaluable so far and it is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom.
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