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Re: Close pass
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: June 2, 2024, 5:24 am
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From the severely cropped photo it does look like a close pass,
but that’s just based on what you’ve shared.
The photo suggests you were far enough over the white line to
obstruct oncoming traffic so perhaps could have gone further
over.
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: peak4
Date: June 2, 2024, 7:30 am
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> What have you actually received? I doubt whether it's a PCN.
>
> Why would they measure "wheel to wheel"? It's not the cycle
wheels that are in danger. You need a clear gap )1.5m) between
the cyclist's body and the extremity of your vehicle (probably
the mirror).
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Without going into the merits of this case, most of the police
photo illustrations I've seen do show the cycle wheel line.
e.g. a few random ones
Last page here
HTML https://www.dorsetroadsafe.org.uk/media/rdughmnv/close-pass-leaflet.pdf
HTML https://www.dorsetroadsafe.org.uk/media/rdughmnv/close-pass-leaflet.pdf
HTML https://road.cc/content/news/286-close-pass-submissions-resulted-one-prosecution-300561
HTML https://road.cc/content/news/286-close-pass-submissions-resulted-one-prosecution-300561
HTML https://www.harrogate-news.co.uk/2017/05/16/campaign-launched-urging-drivers-keep-safe-distance-overtaking-cyclists/
HTML https://www.harrogate-news.co.uk/2017/05/16/campaign-launched-urging-drivers-keep-safe-distance-overtaking-cyclists/
Which isn't to say they've not been criticised
HTML https://road.cc/content/news/police-forces-cyclist-close-pass-operation-questioned-308337
HTML https://road.cc/content/news/police-forces-cyclist-close-pass-operation-questioned-308337
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: Severndroog
Date: June 2, 2024, 8:06 am
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Can’t tell much from the photo, but worth remembering that it
isn’t just about the distance as you pass a cyclist, it’s also
about moving back to your lane too quickly. Some motorists seem
to forget that the cyclist is moving and treat them as a
stationary object.
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: June 2, 2024, 11:20 am
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--- Quote from: peak4 link ---
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>
> Without going into the merits of this case, most of the police
photo illustrations I've seen do show the cycle wheel line.
>
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1/ if you read the Highway Code it’s clear that’s not as it’s
intended
2/ it also fails the common sense test
3/ it’s also not relevant directly only whether a driver is seen
to be driving at a standard that falls below that of a careful
and competent driver in the opinion of the bench.
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