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#Post#: 24530--------------------------------------------------
Close pass
DIR By: guest1883
Date: May 30, 2024, 6:47 pm
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I was sent a PCN for passing a cyclist too
closely. On the footage that the cyclist uploaded to extra eyes
I知 nearly on the other side of the road when passing. I am just
wondering how the investigating officers calculates distance
from footage? And do they measure from wheel to wheel? I have
screen shots of the footage am I able to post them here? To
gathers others thoughts. I知 happy to pay the fine and take it
on the chin as a learning curb but from my memory and watching
the footage I thought I gave reasonable distance.
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: 666
Date: May 31, 2024, 2:13 am
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What have you actually received? I doubt whether it's a PCN.
Why would they measure "wheel to wheel"? It's not the cycle
wheels that are in danger. You need a clear gap )1.5m) between
the cyclist's body and the extremity of your vehicle (probably
the mirror).
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: guest1883
Date: May 31, 2024, 2:58 am
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It was very late when I posted I meant to say NIP followed by a
conditional offer of a fine and 3 points. I知 trying to
understand how they measure as they haven稚 explained this. I
know there is 1.5 m rule that痴 why I Manoeuvred my car to the
other side of her road, my car was only little bit over the
line. Hence why I知 not going to court unless this what I
choose to do. Just would like some advice regarding this before
I accept points on my license.
#Post#: 24541--------------------------------------------------
Re: Close pass
DIR By: Irksome
Date: May 31, 2024, 3:39 am
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Post the screenshots and see what people think I would suggest.
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: May 31, 2024, 4:45 am
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> I知 trying to understand how they measure
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They don't need to measure, while the Highway Code provides a
GUIDE of 1.5m (up to 30mph - speed in question?), the law makes
no such distinction, just whether the driving fell below the
standard of a careful and competent driver.
Was all your car on the other side of the road? If not part of
it being there is rather meaningless in assessing whether you
left sufficient room.
#Post#: 24583--------------------------------------------------
Re: Close pass
DIR By: guest1883
Date: May 31, 2024, 12:37 pm
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The road was 30 mile per hour so was going below 30. [attach=1]
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: slapdash
Date: May 31, 2024, 1:48 pm
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Hard to tell from that with it all being cut off.
Judging solely by road markings if it is a reasonably wide
carriageway that could be quite a reasonable gap.
#Post#: 24596--------------------------------------------------
Re: Close pass
DIR By: guest1883
Date: May 31, 2024, 2:35 pm
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It has personal info so had to crop it. In the footage you cant
really see the other side of the road tbh because how the camera
is angled. It frustrating as I remember anticipating going
passed cyclist and thinking I need to move over so there is
enough space. Perhaps I misjudged and should have gave more
space 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: Irksome
Date: May 31, 2024, 2:52 pm
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You need to redact the information or crop it in a different
way, but to me that looks close.
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Re: Close pass
DIR By: RichardW
Date: June 1, 2024, 2:02 am
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You can measure the width of the road on Google maps, but for
most roads if you are not completely over the line you are too
close. Difficult to say on those pictures, but if you can post
the location and make of car it could be estimated. Having said
that if police have decided to prosecute, then it must look
close, and I imagine it would be hard to defend unless there is
something really screwy going on with the camera angle. The
cyclist will have been passed lots of times on that ride alone,
and will know which feels close / dangerous and worthy of
reporting.
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