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#Post#: 24397--------------------------------------------------
PCN - Not parking but waiting for traffic to pass
DIR By: zunaster
Date: May 29, 2024, 1:48 pm
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I received a PCN while I was not parked but waiting for traffic
to clear. My partner stepped out to record a video showing what
was causing the delay. I had pulled over to the left side of the
road to allow cars to pass, and an officer took photos of my car
during this time. As you can see, my car was about to move and
was not parked. I want to challenge this PCN, and here is my
draft for the challenge:
PCN:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/5v8KSwr/1-REDACTED.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/5v8KSwr
HTML https://i.ibb.co/YP9yNNY/2-REDACT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/YP9yNNY
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Wvvh2yg/3-REDACT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/Wvvh2yg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/LRTXnMp/4redact.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/LRTXnMp
Photos:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/zbyfQLX/10-REDACT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/zbyfQLX
HTML https://i.ibb.co/MfcZZtH/9-REDACT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/MfcZZtH
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Jr6rKJJ/8-REDACT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/Jr6rKJJ
HTML https://i.ibb.co/nwsn50P/7-REDACT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/nwsn50P
HTML https://i.ibb.co/SKgBqL0/6.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/SKgBqL0
Video:
HTML https://jmp.sh/s/8vbArxMjCNgjGy0rPU3w
Letter:
Subject: Formal Challenge to PCN XXX
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally challenge the issuance of a PCN XXX,
which I received in the post.
On the date in question, 08/05/2024, the driver was not parked
but momentarily stopped to allow traffic to pass. My partner
exited the vehicle to record a video of the traffic obstruction
(attached). I had pulled over to the left side of the road to
facilitate the flow of traffic. An officer took photos of my
vehicle during this brief period.
The attached video evidence clearly shows that my vehicle was
not parked but was about to move as soon as the traffic cleared.
The photos taken by the officer were timestamped from 12:25:17
to 12:25:44, which is less than a minute. The letter states the
alleged parking violation occurred from 12:24 to 12:27:05, but
as you can see, my car was moving out by 12:25:44.
I respectfully request that you review this evidence and revoke
the PCN issued under these circumstances.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
#Post#: 24406--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Not parking but waiting for traffic to pass
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: May 29, 2024, 3:42 pm
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I might be missing something obvious but where in the four
posted pictures is the other traffic that you were waiting for?
#Post#: 24410--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Not parking but waiting for traffic to pass
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 29, 2024, 3:51 pm
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The double-yellow lines mean "No Waiting", but in your own words
you were "waiting for traffic to clear." Sorry, but I can't see
your representations succeeding. Once you stopped and somebody
got out of the car, you were no longer 'in traffic'.
The PCN was served by post because the CEO says you drove off
before the PCN he was preparing could be served. It is possible
there is something there which could form the basis for
representations, but I'll defer to others on this aspect.
So I suggest you hold off from submitting those reps until
others have commented, but don't miss the deadline to submit
reps on the PCN.
#Post#: 24417--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Not parking but waiting for traffic to pass
DIR By: zunaster
Date: May 29, 2024, 4:16 pm
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I was waiting as there was no movement and my partner left the
car to see what was the issue, the big truck was blocking
traffic as can be seen in the video. Once that was clear, I was
letting the other cars that had been waiting way longer than I
was to pass through..
#Post#: 24420--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Not parking but waiting for traffic to pass
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 29, 2024, 4:28 pm
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--- Quote from: zunaster link ---
>
> I was waiting as there was no movement and my partner left the
car to see what was the issue, the big truck was blocking
traffic as can be seen in the video. Once that was clear, I was
letting the other cars that had been waiting way longer than I
was to pass through..
>
--- End Quote ---
All fair enough, but why did you pull in, if the traffic was
stationary ? I have to say I think you'll struggle at an
adjudication with your narrative, but lets see what others say.
#Post#: 24429--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Not parking but waiting for traffic to pass
DIR By: estevenin
Date: May 29, 2024, 6:05 pm
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[member=12]Incandescent[/member] You have to see the street
layout to understand what OP means : Rockley Road
gopher.createaforum.com:70 /forums/ftla/p/2054:128: line too long