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       NPC - not parking wholly within a parked bay 
   DIR By: Markmcg
       Date: May 29, 2024, 12:58 pm
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       Hello
       The local gym has recently given NPC the responsibility of
       controlling the car park.
       The driver (family member) has told me that there was limited
       parking and they had to enter the parking space on an awkward
       angle because of the positioning of the the 2 cars parked
       alongside the space. Without entering the space as such they
       wouldn't have been able to park.
       please can someone help?
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       #Post#: 24396--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NPC - not parking wholly within a parked bay 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: May 29, 2024, 1:27 pm
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       Before we get onto anything else, have you spoken to the gym
       management yet? If not, as the ones who seemingly contracted the
       parking company to manage the car park on their behalf, this
       would be a wise first step.
       #Post#: 24404--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NPC - not parking wholly within a parked bay 
   DIR By: Markmcg
       Date: May 29, 2024, 3:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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       > Before we get onto anything else, have you spoken to the gym
       management yet? If not, as the ones who seemingly contracted the
       parking company to manage the car park on their behalf, this
       would be a wise first step.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I have had a similar one before and they said they are reluctant
       to 'sort' them for people any more as they are paying the fines
       themselves so I have to address the matter with the parking firm
       myself. Do you think what I have been told is correct or it is a
       simple matter of them cancelling it themselves.
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       Re: NPC - not parking wholly within a parked bay 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: May 29, 2024, 3:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Markmcg link ---
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       > Do you think what I have been told is correct or it is a
       simple matter of them cancelling it themselves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The short answer is 'don't know' - without seeing the terms of
       the gym's agreement with NPC. Some of them do have rather
       unusual clauses in them that rather seem like the tail wagging
       the dog. Trying costs you nothing, though, and the prospect of
       them losing a loyal customer over the matter might sway them
       (even more so if other family members are alos members who will
       also find an alternative gym if they don't cancel the charge,
       for example).
       #Post#: 24435--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NPC - not parking wholly within a parked bay 
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: May 30, 2024, 2:27 am
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       --- Quote from: Markmcg link ---
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       > they said they are reluctant to 'sort' them for people any
       more as they are paying the fines themselves
       >
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       1/ They are invoices, only a court can fine you (since the Magna
       Carta), even the police, councils, other statutory bodies can
       only issue penalties.
       2/ Tough, they entered a contract, of their own volition, they
       put themselves in that position by not doing their due diligence
       before signing it, lean on them and make a credible threat to
       move if they don't sort it out (1-2 months of lost membership
       would cover the invoice). Their bed, they have to lie in it -
       and if they lie with dogs they will catch the fleas. Enough get
       annoyed they may bin off these parasites.
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