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LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: Starworshipper
Date: July 15, 2023, 8:10 am
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Hi all,
The wife picked this one up. Looks bang to rights, but any
advice on any possible technical challenge would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks!
PCN:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/KOjb0Vl
GSV:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/DSuE7pqGmzsP2de99?g_st=icI’
Video:
HTML https://youtube.com/shorts/-fp_bh193es?feature=sharea
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: guest17
Date: July 16, 2023, 2:22 am
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OP---Looks bang to rights.
This looks like the original set up:-
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/3AsjypDinFjBSo1V8
I would contend that a 619 sign (flying motorbike) is required
on the left and that the right hand sign is merely supplemental
to that requirement.
The Council have to set up traffic signs properly under:-
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18/made
IMO the signage is inadequate but it would be a struggle to
convince the Council.
Mike
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: Starworshipper
Date: July 16, 2023, 3:57 am
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Many thanks for the info Mike.
We did have a look back in time on GSV (wife didn’t remember the
restriction being there before) and saw the clearer signs from
2021. Signage is poor at the moment, as you say, so perhaps
worth a challenge on that - signs have been poorly maintained?
But I’ve told her to prepare to pay!
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 16, 2023, 4:03 pm
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The traffic order is The Camden (Arlington Road Low Traffic
Neighbourhood) Traffic Order 2022
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xgw2JMU3nDp0tkZy1Tuzib1qH4bWL0x2/view?usp=sharing,<br
/>I'm not aware of any flaws but someone else might spot
something.
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: Starworshipper
Date: July 16, 2023, 4:35 pm
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Thank you cp8759 - much appreciated.
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: Starworshipper
Date: July 18, 2023, 2:07 am
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--- Quote from: MMV Redux link ---
>
> OP---Looks bang to rights.
>
> This looks like the original set up:-
>
>
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/3AsjypDinFjBSo1V8
>
> I would contend that a 619 sign (flying motorbike) is required
on the left and that the right hand sign is merely supplemental
to that requirement.
>
> The Council have to set up traffic signs properly under:-
>
>
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18/made
>
> IMO the signage is inadequate but it would be a struggle to
convince the Council.
>
> Mike
>
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Hi again Mike,
Regarding inadequate signage, I did a little digging and found
this, (albeit from Southwark):
HTML https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/4680/DS-300-Overaching-requirements-and-principles-for-signs.pdf
It seems councils are ‘decluttering’, with respect to signage,
so my idea about poorly maintained signage might be a no go-er.
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: guest17
Date: August 6, 2023, 4:09 am
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OP--Apologies I missed your response.
On decluttering, I would argue great! but the Council has
removed the wrong sign.
We drive on the left and a driver would expect signage to be on
the left in his or her sightline.
Mike
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Re: LB Camden - Fail to comply - Jamestown Rd NW1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 6, 2023, 4:26 am
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+1 to Mike.
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