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#Post#: 24131--------------------------------------------------
Received NIP speeding fine thats dated after 14 days
DIR By: Kurtburt
Date: May 27, 2024, 3:27 pm
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Hi, I received a Notice of Intended Prosecution for a speeding
offence and the letter is dated 22nd May 2024, however the
alleged offence is on 01 May 2024. This is obviously over 14
days so does that mean its not valid?
Yes I am the registered keeper and all records are up to date.
Weirdly though a couple days after receiving the NIP I also
received a letter stating that enquiries with the DVLA suggest
that the address for the vehicle is incorrect (this letter is
also dated on the 22nd)
As far as i am aware though my details are all correct and
nothing has changed in the 10+ years ive had the vehicle, in
fact I had a speeding offence a year ago with the same vehicle
and no issues
Just curious as to whether any of this means the NIP is invalid?
many thanks
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Re: Received NIP speeding fine thats dated after 14 days
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: May 27, 2024, 3:40 pm
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So have you looked at the V5C and confirmed that the details are
correct?
#Post#: 24198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received NIP speeding fine thats dated after 14 days
DIR By: mdann52
Date: May 28, 2024, 2:54 am
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The s. 172 requirement incorporated into the NIP isn't invalid
under these circumstance, and the driver still needs to be
named.
However, if the police have failed to serve the NIP on the
registered keeper within 14 days, and there are no issues with
details, then any prosecution should be barred by S1 Road
Traffic Offenders Act
#Post#: 24288--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received NIP speeding fine thats dated after 14 days
DIR By: Logician
Date: May 28, 2024, 1:50 pm
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--- Quote from: mdann52 link ---
>
> The s. 172 requirement incorporated into the NIP isn't invalid
under these circumstance, and the driver still needs to be
named.
>
> However, if the police have failed to serve the NIP on the
registered keeper within 14 days, and there are no issues with
details, then any prosecution should be barred by S1 Road
Traffic Offenders Act
>
--- End Quote ---
It is possible that what you have is not the first NIP, but a
reminder, reminders are only rarely labelled as such and look
identical to a first instance document. It would be advisable to
make 'a bemused phone call' querying the apparent lateness.
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Re: Received NIP speeding fine thats dated after 14 days
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: May 28, 2024, 2:43 pm
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--- Quote from: Logician link ---
> It is possible that what you have is not the first NIP, but a
reminder, reminders are only rarely labelled as such and look
identical to a first instance document. It would be advisable to
make 'a bemused phone call' querying the apparent lateness.
>
--- End Quote ---
As the original offence was on the 1st May and the recipient of
an S172 letter has up to 28 days to respond, would a reminder
have been sent out only 3 weeks from the date of the offence?
#Post#: 24301--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received NIP speeding fine thats dated after 14 days
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: May 28, 2024, 3:28 pm
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Who knows? And who cares?
Unless/until the OP comes back and fills in the blanks,
everything is just idle speculation and noise.
The reason we know that it's not a reminder has absolutely
nothing to do with whether or not some original 28 days had
expired or not - some forces apparently send out reminders
before the 28 days has expired - technically a "reminder" after
the s. 172 offence has already been committed is not a reminder
but a second chance. It does however, have everything to do with
the fact that they sent the OP a letter at the same time telling
him that his details on the V5C were incorrect.
In general, a NIP issued "late" to an RK is likely to be a
reminder. In the instant case the police appear to be saying
that the OP is effectively not the RK (the vehicle is not
correctly registered in his name and address).
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