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#Post#: 23889--------------------------------------------------
Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: Riamo01
Date: May 25, 2024, 6:09 pm
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I was parked on Farringdon street near a school. This is a
parking used on a daily basis by many drivers.
There are zig zag lines outside the school and then a gap for
two cars to be parked easily still leaving enough room.
I was parked in that particular spot with the other car behind
me. I parked there in the morning at around 9:00am until
15:00pm however the CCTV shows the time of leaving.
According to the council I was parked on the zigzag lines. I
regularly use that road to park and am certain that I was not
parked anywhere near the lines. The CCTV footage used to capture
this has been cleverly angled in a way which makes it seem that
I crossed the lines(Zooming trick illusion). You can see actual
space on google street view.
I do not believe it is lawful for the council to be fining
people for parking legitimately. There is clearly space for two
cars to be parked in the spot they are stating and does not
block any entrance or exit of the school.
Also the letter came in my partner's name as he is the
registered owner.
Please advice me if its worth doing appeal or just pay £35 but
its really unfair and council is using this CCTV technique to
charge drivers on regular basis.
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HTML https://parking.walsall.gov.uk/penaltychargenotice/
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#Post#: 23891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: roythebus
Date: May 25, 2024, 6:44 pm
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It would appear to e that the images show a car leaving, not one
being parked on the zigzags. Is there any photos of the car
parked on the zigzags? Your first link wants me to sign in to
something which I'm reluctant to do. It the council don't have
that photographic evidence, then they don't have a case.
#Post#: 23892--------------------------------------------------
Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: Riamo01
Date: May 25, 2024, 6:53 pm
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Sorry I tried to upload video and share link but the best way to
see all evidence is by following link;
HTML https://parking.walsall.gov.uk/penaltychargenotice/
Vehicle Reg: DP18TFJ
PCN#: XD46101416
#Post#: 23895--------------------------------------------------
Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: guest17
Date: May 26, 2024, 12:24 am
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OP----This is the key photo because it describes the
prohibition.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/tYDWxspi7eCYEMWc7
The Council may argue that it's all a "restricted area outside a
school" but that sign indicates the true position. You were not
stopped on any entrance markings so a contravention did not
occur.
Also looking on GSV vehicles have used that spot to park on a
habitual basis. Therefore you have an appeal ground of
"legitimate expectation" that you could park there without
enforcement.
Mike
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Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 26, 2024, 5:56 am
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There are two sets of entrance markings, with a space between
them. The camera does not show a contravention at all, so if it
were me, I'd take them all the way to adjudication, but it's
your partners car so he must decide as the PCN is his
responsibility to pay or appeal.
Please post up their letter of refusal of reps, so we can see
what tosh it contains.
#Post#: 23947--------------------------------------------------
Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: Riamo01
Date: May 26, 2024, 5:15 pm
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Thank you for your responses.
I am hoping to appeal this and would appreciate it if anyone is
able to either give me an example or guide me on how to put this
forward as an official appeal.
#Post#: 24152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 27, 2024, 4:24 pm
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[member=1846]Riamo01[/member] here you go:
[indent]
Dear Walsall Metropolitan Borough Council,
My vehicle was filmed by your camera but it was not stopped in a
restricted area. The restricted area is marked by yellow zig-zag
lines, there is a gap in the zig-zags where parking is
permitted, this can clearly be seen on Google Street View at
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ei2brAf2DfDmL9FPA
It is obvious that your camera is faulty and it not properly
calibrated, as no vehicles parking in that legitimate spot
should be subject to any enforcement. I trust you will now
review your records and not only cancel my own PCN, but also any
other PCNs that might have been issued erroneously, even if they
have been paid.
I take it that in the interests of fairness, enforcement will be
suspended altogether until the camera has been fixed.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Send this online and keep a screenshot of the confirmation page.
I will also look into the camera approval, as clearly something
is not quite right.
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Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: Riamo01
Date: May 27, 2024, 4:35 pm
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Thankyou so much for all your help, much appreciated. I will
keep you updated with the outcome.
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Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 30, 2024, 11:54 am
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I have asked the council about the camera and this was the
response:
[indent]
The make is Hikvision camera with a Teltonika Router and the
model is DS-2DE4A425IW-DE(B).
[/indent]
Not sure they have a certificate for it but let's wait and see
how they respond to the representations.
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Re: Walsall Council CCTV PCN- 48J Stopped in a restricted area,
Farringdon Street
DIR By: Riamo01
Date: May 30, 2024, 12:58 pm
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Thank you again for gathering the information, I am still
waiting for a reply from Walsall Council and I will keep you
posted.
Regards
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