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       NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: NBSCMN
       Date: May 24, 2024, 11:58 am
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       Hi,
       I received the NIP on 22/5 and offence occured 18/5 @ 15:47.
       Looking at the photographs online, the time on the picture is
       14:47 not 15:47. Is it possible to use this in any way?
       Happened on A217 Brighton Road N, Banstead
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/KenhzLx
       i cant upload the pics of the car from the surreypas website atm
       as seems site is down. error 403
       the certificate for the camera ends in july 2024.
       It was an automatic speed camera not a standard.
       #Post#: 23797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: May 24, 2024, 12:24 pm
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       If it occurred at 15:47, no, camera is probably set to GMT.
       #Post#: 23946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: NBSCMN
       Date: May 26, 2024, 5:10 pm
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       so other way to fight this one?
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       Re: NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: May 26, 2024, 7:28 pm
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       Based on what?
       #Post#: 23970--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: May 27, 2024, 5:41 am
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       --- Quote from: NBSCMN link ---
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       > so other way to fight this one?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, no, maybe?
       You will need to look for either a defect in the speed reading
       or a defect in the way the limit is set and communicated.
       So you could get a copy the the relevant Traffic Regulation
       Order that set the limit and see if it’s correct, you could
       check the signage and see if it adequately conveys the limit,
       you could look at the photo you have and see if it looks like
       there may be an error in the speed reading.
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       Re: NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: NBSCMN
       Date: June 5, 2024, 12:38 pm
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       Okay.
       How do I go about getting the traffic regulation order?
       this is the pics of certificate, map and photographs
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/lMnHR5C
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       Re: NIP received speeding automatic speed zone 47 in a 40 
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: June 6, 2024, 4:13 am
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       --- Quote from: NBSCMN link ---
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       > How do I go about getting the traffic regulation order?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       In the first instance, from the relevant Highways Authority,
       which in this case would be Surrey County Council. You'll
       probably need to ask for it, rather than being able to find it
       on their web site.
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