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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: October 30, 2024, 9:45 am
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Afternoon All
Given the above, I'm going to submit a challenge and request a
review of the Adjudicator's decision. Currently in the process
of drafting a doc with a view to send out later today. Any kind
folks on here willing to review it for me, just to check that it
makes sense and suggest any helpful pointers? If so, please PM
with email address etc and I'll ping across to you as soon as I
have something workable.
Regards - NTIAEP
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: October 30, 2024, 5:03 pm
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Hang on. We need to see the whole file to advise re a review
which is a very technical exercise. Please do not shoot anything
off first. You have 14 days from the decision. When did you
receive it? IMO you are too late.
#Post#: 43224--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: October 30, 2024, 5:47 pm
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Decision was sent on 16/10/24 so have until 2359hrs tonight.
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: November 5, 2024, 5:14 am
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Submitted the request for a review and have received the
following response from London Tribunals:
"Having considered your correspondence, the adjudicator has
decided that your case should be listed
as an application for review.
Your case will enter the list for a decision on [ddmmyyyy] and
will be considered by an
adjudicator as soon as possible after that date.
If, on considering the application, the adjudicator decides that
the previous decision should be
reviewed, the review may be conducted immediately or scheduled
to be heard at a later date.\\\\\\\2
#Post#: 44053--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 5, 2024, 5:18 am
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Sorry to be repetitive: we need to see the whole file and what
you wrote in the application for review.
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: November 5, 2024, 5:36 am
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Case details are available within previous messages in this
thread.
Link to redacted request for review of appeal decision
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/472iqw2syo39n3iysbtbl/20241030_Request-for-Review-of-Adjudicators-Decision_case-ref-2240345188_redacted.pdf?rlkey=rtjcgj2bwy3l89y8sz22wnhz9&st=nni725w3&dl=0
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: Martyn21uk
Date: November 5, 2024, 7:23 am
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I take it your tribunal hearing was done on papers? As in you
didn't attend (either in person, remotely or by phone?)
It would seem to me this is a classic case to emphasis why it is
always important to not rely on papers.
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: November 5, 2024, 7:37 am
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--- Quote from: Martyn21uk link ---
>
> I take it your tribunal hearing was done on papers? As in you
didn't attend (either in person, remotely or by phone?)
>
> It would seem to me this is a classic case to emphasis why it
is always important to not rely on papers.
>
--- End Quote ---
That is correct. But why should it make a difference? Surely
the outcome should be based only and solely on the circumstances
of the case and the evidence presented (to which I would have
had nothing to add to had I 'attended').
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 5, 2024, 9:02 am
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--- Quote from: NTIAEP link ---
>
> [quote author=Martyn21uk link=topic=1967.msg44070#msg44070
date=1730813009]
> I take it your tribunal hearing was done on papers? As in you
didn't attend (either in person, remotely or by phone?)
>
> It would seem to me this is a classic case to emphasis why it
is always important to not rely on papers.
>
--- End Quote ---
That is correct. But why should it make a difference? Surely
the outcome should be based only and solely on the circumstances
of the case and the evidence presented (to which I would have
had nothing to add to had I 'attended').
[/quote]
Well, maybe, but we deal in reality on this forum and many years
of looking at PCNs and adjudications shows people who rely on
papers-based hearings tend to lose.
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Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 5, 2024, 9:09 am
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On average, adjudicators hear ca. 15 cases a day. I recently won
a review because the original adjudicator made a mistake. It was
a postal hearing. If I had been there, the mistake would not
have happened. If you want help with this, you need to PM me.
Dropbox files are no good for me.
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