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#Post#: 23403--------------------------------------------------
Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct of
High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: May 21, 2024, 8:40 am
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Good Afternoon all
I won't waste my time and energy in having a rant at Redbridge
council.
Currently don't have a redacted copy of the PCN, so will post
when I can. In the meantime, details are as follows:
PCN ref: AF9860190A
VRN: SAF17A
Location/Direction Junction of High Rd(Ilford) & Cricklefield
Place (Westbound)
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/KLmSDtnbVFzgarjo8
I'm very wary of the 'No U-turn' 'For 110 Yards' signs that you
can see in the GSV, so in order to head back in the opposite
direction (i.e. Eastbound) to then take the left turn up
Aldborough Rd South (you can't take a right turn into this road
when heading West), I either:
1) take a left turn into Cricklefield Place, perform a 3-point
turn further down this road and then exit it by taking a right
turn; or
2) take a right-turn into the private carpark of RGB Electrical,
making sure that the vehicle completely leaves the road/pavement
and fully enters the carpark. Entirely within the bounds of the
carpark, I then either:
a) perform a 3-point turn;
b) turn the vehicle round in one continuous movement;
and then exit left out of the carpark whilst either:
i) having to give-way to pedestrians/other vehicles; or
ii) in their absence, again in one continuous movement without
stopping.
In this instance, the video evidence (which I can't save)
provided by LBR shows b) ii) as referenced above.
Your thoughts/advice very welcome.
Regards - NTIAEP
#Post#: 23505--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: May 22, 2024, 6:15 am
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Front page of PCN
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#Post#: 23507--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: May 22, 2024, 6:22 am
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......and have just received a 2nd PCN (again via post) for a
repeat instance of the same alleged contravention, 3 days after
the first alleged contravention.
#Post#: 23513--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 22, 2024, 6:46 am
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Looking at the video, your car does seem to clear the footway
and enter the small RGB car park, so I suppose, in theory, no
contravention has been committed. After all, what if you turned
right into the car park to visit RGB on business, then came out
and turned left to go back the way you came ?
However, such is the greed for cash at Redbridge, you'll
probably have to take them to London Tribunals for an unbiased
decision. First you must submit reps to Redbridge on the basis
that the contravention did not occur, and their video shows no
contravention.
#Post#: 23518--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: May 22, 2024, 7:04 am
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Yes - the vehicle completely entered the RGB carpark. I always
ensure that it does (specifically for this reason) and have been
doing so for the past few/several years, ever since they
installed the CCTV. The reasons for entering the carpark of no
concern or business of Redbridge council.
As far as I am concerned, I took a right-turn to enter the
carpark and then exited the carpark by taking a left-turn.
Will wait for some more responses from fellow forum members
before submitting any reps etc.
#Post#: 24022--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 27, 2024, 10:17 am
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Video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T567O-wGUT0
It seems open and shut to me: you left the road and then
re-entered the road, that is not a u-turn.
Post a draft on here first, but really there isn't much to add.
#Post#: 24125--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: May 27, 2024, 3:12 pm
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Submitted my inital reps as follows:
"The alleged contravention did not occur and the video and/or
photo evidence provided by LBR does not prove otherwise.
Rather, the vehicle took a right turn onto private land, fully
entering it and completely leaving the carriageway. The vehicle
then exited the private land and took a left turn on to the
carriageway."
[member=1]cp8759[/member] how did you get the video onto
YouTube?
#Post#: 24126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 27, 2024, 3:14 pm
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--- Quote from: NTIAEP link ---
>
> Submitted my inital reps as follows:
>
> "The alleged contravention did not occur and the video and/or
photo evidence provided by LBR does not prove otherwise.
>
> Rather, the vehicle took a right turn onto private land, fully
entering it and completely leaving the carriageway. The vehicle
then exited the private land and took a left turn on to the
carriageway."
>
--- End Quote ---
That will do, though I would hardly be surprised if they
rejected.
--- Quote from: NTIAEP link ---
>
> [member=1]cp8759[/member] how did you get the video onto
YouTube?
>
--- End Quote ---
If you use Google Chrome's inspect function you can find the
actual URL where the video is hosted and you can download it
from there, then you just upload it wherever you want.
#Post#: 24137--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 27, 2024, 3:44 pm
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This is bolleaux. FGS.
#Post#: 29246--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge/50u-Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)/Jct
of High Rd (Ilford) & Cricklefield Place
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: July 9, 2024, 8:21 am
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20240704_AF9860190A_NoR_redacted.pdf_new link
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6wmhv9ehkq5d44lwjzuv8/20240704_AF9860190A_NoR_redacted.pdf?rlkey=r1qqi6af5bmxripr7pm3b1ois&st=ddpwv6p6&dl=0
Lo & behold, Redbridge Council rejected my Reps (please see
attached).
Hi ho,
Hi ho,
Off to the tribunal we go....
But before I proceed, should I? Any accompanying words of advice
or wisdom?
Regards - NTIAEP
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