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#Post#: 28447--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 3, 2024, 6:56 am
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> I have received a notice of rejection of representation - For
some reason the appeal should be made direct to the adjudicator.
Is that the correct process?
>
> I was thinking first they should reject the appeal and I will
state that "I require you to reconsider my informal
representations as my formal representation"
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Usually
In stationary traffic offences where the PCN is affixed to the
vehicle the driver, who may or may not be the registered keeper,
has the chance to pay or challenge the PCN. If neither happens
this is followed by a NtO (Notice to Owner) sent by post to the
person named on the V5C. The registered keeper then has the
opportunity to make representations. If these are rejected, then
the RK may pay or appeal to the tribunal.
For moving traffic offences the PCN has to be sent to the RK, so
it serves as NtO and rejection of any representations means RK
may pay or appeal to tribunal: there is no informal challenge
stage.
For further detail see
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process
#Post#: 28449--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: S.M
Date: July 3, 2024, 7:00 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> [quote]I have received a notice of rejection of representation
- For some reason the appeal should be made direct to the
adjudicator. Is that the correct process?
>
> I was thinking first they should reject the appeal and I will
state that "I require you to reconsider my informal
representations as my formal representation"
--- End Quote ---
Usually
In stationary traffic offences where the PCN is affixed to the
vehicle the driver, who may or may not be the registered keeper,
has the chance to pay or challenge the PCN. If neither happens
this is followed by a NtO (Notice to Owner) sent by post to the
person named on the V5C. The registered keeper then has the
opportunity to make representations. If these are rejected, then
the RK may pay or appeal to the tribunal.
For moving traffic offences the PCN has to be sent to the RK, so
it serves as NtO and rejection of any representations means RK
may pay or appeal to tribunal: there is no informal challenge
stage.
For further detail see
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process
[/quote]
Makes sense now - thank you
#Post#: 28450--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: S.M
Date: July 3, 2024, 7:01 am
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Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include in
the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
#Post#: 28476--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: Neil B
Date: July 3, 2024, 11:04 am
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--- Quote from: S.M link ---
>
> Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include
in the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
>
--- End Quote ---
Normal MO is just to register your appeal online under 'the
contravention did not occur' and state that you rely on your
formal representations.
Then wait to see if they contest. If they do they will send an
evidence pack and also upload that to the tribunal portal.
Come back here immediately if they do. their 'case summary' will
normally give you some clues about how you might then respond.
#Post#: 28486--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: S.M
Date: July 3, 2024, 11:49 am
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> [quote author=S.M link=topic=1959.msg28450#msg28450
date=1720008094]
> Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include
in the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
>
--- End Quote ---
Normal MO is just to register your appeal online under 'the
contravention did not occur' and state that you rely on your
formal representations.
Then wait to see if they contest. If they do they will send an
evidence pack and also upload that to the tribunal portal.
Come back here immediately if they do. their 'case summary' will
normally give you some clues about how you might then respond.
[/quote]
I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their
contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is
it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?
#Post#: 28491--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 3, 2024, 12:02 pm
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--- Quote ---
> I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their
contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is
it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?
--- End Quote ---
Make sure you have asked for a personal (face-to-face or
telephone) hearing (never, ever, a decision on papers). You will
then be given a date and time for the hearing, and the council
must submit an evidence pack 4-5 days before the hearing date.
#Post#: 28495--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: Neil B
Date: July 3, 2024, 12:07 pm
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--- Quote from: S.M link ---
>
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=1959.msg28476#msg28476
date=1720022651]
> [quote author=S.M link=topic=1959.msg28450#msg28450
date=1720008094]
> Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include
in the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
>
--- End Quote ---
Normal MO is just to register your appeal online under 'the
contravention did not occur' and state that you rely on your
formal representations.
Then wait to see if they contest. If they do they will send an
evidence pack and also upload that to the tribunal portal.
Come back here immediately if they do. their 'case summary' will
normally give you some clues about how you might then respond.
[/quote]
I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their
contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is
it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?
[/quote]
I hope you opted for a personal hearing? These can be done by
telephone.
the council should provide an evidence pack I think it's 7 days
before the hearing.
I'm sure someone will correct me on that.
#Post#: 28499--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: Neil B
Date: July 3, 2024, 12:14 pm
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edit parrot.
#Post#: 28505--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: S.M
Date: July 3, 2024, 12:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> [quote author=S.M link=topic=1959.msg28486#msg28486
date=1720025348]
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=1959.msg28476#msg28476
date=1720022651]
> [quote author=S.M link=topic=1959.msg28450#msg28450
date=1720008094]
> Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include
in the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
>
--- End Quote ---
Normal MO is just to register your appeal online under 'the
contravention did not occur' and state that you rely on your
formal representations.
Then wait to see if they contest. If they do they will send an
evidence pack and also upload that to the tribunal portal.
Come back here immediately if they do. their 'case summary' will
normally give you some clues about how you might then respond.
[/quote]
I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their
contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is
it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?
[/quote]
I hope you opted for a personal hearing? These can be done by
telephone.
the council should provide an evidence pack I think it's 7 days
before the hearing.
I'm sure someone will correct me on that.
[/quote]
Yes i did ask for a personal hearing and ticked all the boxes
apart from the 8-10 a.m slots.
#Post#: 28508--------------------------------------------------
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone,
Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 3, 2024, 12:55 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Yes i did ask for a personal hearing and ticked all the boxes
apart from the 8-10 a.m slots.
--- End Quote ---
Post the date when you have been given it.
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