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Re: UKPC - I’ve got a permit for ukpc parking but still issuing
me tickets and can’t contest
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 20, 2024, 2:37 am
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I'm mindful that this is three PCNs rather than a single ticket,
and whether this might entice them more than a single one?
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Re: UKPC - I’ve got a permit for ukpc parking but still issuing
me tickets and can’t contest
DIR By: b789
Date: May 20, 2024, 2:58 am
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There is a possibility but I haven’t seen them doing much
consolidation and without them doing so, we can add cause of
action estoppel to subsequent claims.
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Re: UKPC - I’ve got a permit for ukpc parking but still issuing
me tickets and can’t contest
DIR By: amrab
Date: May 22, 2024, 5:13 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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> I'm mindful that this is three PCNs rather than a single
ticket, and whether this might entice them more than a single
one?
>
--- End Quote ---
yes but I provided the same stories too all 6 tickets and 3 got
cancelled but 3 didnt
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Re: UKPC - I’ve got a permit for ukpc parking but still issuing
me tickets and can’t contest
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 22, 2024, 6:35 pm
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Indeed, but I've given up trying to understand how UKPC operate.
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Re: UKPC - I’ve got a permit for ukpc parking but still issuing
me tickets and can’t contest
DIR By: b789
Date: May 22, 2024, 6:55 pm
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It would be interesting to note the dates of any demands
received for any of the 3 outstanding PCNs. In your appeals and
POPLA appeals, did you appeal as the keeper or ad the driver?
For example, one of the NtKs shows a date on the NtK as
29/12/2023. It says it must be paid within 28 days of the date
the notice was “given” without specifying what “given” means. It
cannot have been “given” any earlier than 03/01/2024. Therefore,
they should not have sent any demand dated before 31/01/2024.
Whilst this may seem academic, if they’ve sent any demand before
the 28 days have passed they will have breached PoFA, although
that may be moot, depending on whether you have identified the
driver. However, they will have also breached the CRA 2015. The
Consumer Rights Act 2015 requires that terms and conditions must
be fair and transparent. An NtK giving 28 days for payment but
followed by an early demand is misleading and unfair to the
keeper, thereby potentially invalidating the NtK.
Sending an early demand for payment could confuse the keeper
about their rights and the timeline for responding to the NtK.
This confusion can affect the procedural fairness and the
keeper's ability to make an informed decision regarding payment
or appeal. Procedural fairness is an underlying principle in
consumer-related disputes, and a breach of this could invalidate
the process initiated by the NtK.
The last bit regarding procedural fairness would only apply if
it ever ended up in court.
So, did you receive any demands or reminders to pay for any of
the PCNs and did you reveal the identity of the driver in your
appeals?
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