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#Post#: 25584--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 11, 2024, 5:49 am
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[member=1774]Admiration[/member] I would suggest waiting for the
notice to owner. As long as you challenge it within 14 days of
the date of issue the discount should be reoffered anyway, so
there is limited risk in carrying on.
#Post#: 25598--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: Admiration
Date: June 11, 2024, 8:48 am
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Thank you.
Could I please check, if I challenge it, after receiving NTO,
what are the chances of getting it cancelled?
--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [member=1774]Admiration[/member] I would suggest waiting for
the notice to owner. As long as you challenge it within 14 days
of the date of issue the discount should be reoffered anyway, so
there is limited risk in carrying on.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 29620--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: Admiration
Date: July 12, 2024, 6:43 am
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Hi @cp8759, I just received the NTO.
Please find it here:
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kq8r7s469nh3pyf0ilj85/20240712_121955.jpg?rlkey=smw6xo3fe051ywvlir7fwd0xo&st=wisfeldz&dl=0
and
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/39zjpwdnrptbhfwnrx3hq/20240712_122542.jpg?rlkey=igi35man3cad8g61v36ftcd24&st=hwgwu7dy&dl=0
All documents are saved here -
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/kqgjotwqb5bemieec41l7/AHkkWYJ3_oaaWA1rndELoek?rlkey=6fkhc4v20d3am1441pn0fcws6&st=bhfenu70&dl=0
My queries now - why they have not offered 50% discount this
time?
and, please advise what should I do from here now?
as always, grateful for all your help and guidance on this.
--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [member=1774]Admiration[/member] I would suggest waiting for
the notice to owner. As long as you challenge it within 14 days
of the date of issue the discount should be reoffered anyway, so
there is limited risk in carrying on.
>
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/kqgjotwqb5bemieec41l7/AHkkWYJ3_oaaWA1rndELoek?rlkey=6fkhc4v20d3am1441pn0fcws6&st=bhfenu70&dl=0
#Post#: 29652--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: Phantomcrusader
Date: July 12, 2024, 10:14 am
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The NTO appears to be missing this ground of appeal.
(i)the enforcement notice should not have been served because—
(i)the penalty charge has already been paid in full, or
(ii)the penalty charge has been paid, reduced by the amount of
any discount set in accordance with Schedule 9 to the TMA 2004,
by the applicable date as specified in paragraph 1(3) of
Schedule 3 to the 2022 General Regulations.
#Post#: 29676--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 12, 2024, 1:13 pm
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You must respond to the Notice to Owner, because if you don't
you lose all chance of appealing to the adjudicators.
The discount is normally only ever offered on the PCN, but many
councils do re-offer it when refusing reps against a Notice to
Owner. Whether Bradford do you'll only find out when you submit
representations. If you do, make sure you submit them within 14
days like a PCN. Their refusal letter is tosh; there is no
legal requirement for loading at the roadside to be continuous.
Sone unloading requires several trips to and from the vehicle,
which drivers usually lock to prevent theft.
#Post#: 29791--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: Admiration
Date: July 13, 2024, 2:42 pm
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Thank you [member=904]Phantomcrusader[/member].
Do these missing details give me any benefit in my appeal
please? and how can I use them?
--- Quote from: Phantomcrusader link ---
>
> The NTO appears to be missing this ground of appeal.
>
> (i)the enforcement notice should not have been served because—
>
> (i)the penalty charge has already been paid in full, or
>
> (ii)the penalty charge has been paid, reduced by the amount of
any discount set in accordance with Schedule 9 to the TMA 2004,
by the applicable date as specified in paragraph 1(3) of
Schedule 3 to the 2022 General Regulations.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 29792--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: Admiration
Date: July 13, 2024, 2:45 pm
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Thank you [member=12]Incandescent[/member].
I am willing to respond. I need guidance on how I do it, and
what are things I need to put in my appeal to get it right
please.
Also, wanted to check if the communication from here onwards
from council will be through email or a portal or they will send
letters again, if you know, please?
Many Thanks
--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> You must respond to the Notice to Owner, because if you don't
you lose all chance of appealing to the adjudicators.
>
> The discount is normally only ever offered on the PCN, but
many councils do re-offer it when refusing reps against a
Notice to Owner. Whether Bradford do you'll only find out when
you submit representations. If you do, make sure you submit them
within 14 days like a PCN. Their refusal letter is tosh; there
is no legal requirement for loading at the roadside to be
continuous. Sone unloading requires several trips to and from
the vehicle, which drivers usually lock to prevent theft.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 29793--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: Admiration
Date: July 13, 2024, 2:47 pm
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member].
Please let me know how do I appeal this one and what to cover in
it please.
Many Thanks again.
--- Quote from: Admiration link ---
>
> Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], I just received the NTO.
>
> Please find it here:
>
>
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kq8r7s469nh3pyf0ilj85/20240712_121955.jpg?rlkey=smw6xo3fe051ywvlir7fwd0xo&st=wisfeldz&dl=0
>
> and
>
>
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/39zjpwdnrptbhfwnrx3hq/20240712_122542.jpg?rlkey=igi35man3cad8g61v36ftcd24&st=hwgwu7dy&dl=0
>
> All documents are saved here -
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/kqgjotwqb5bemieec41l7/AHkkWYJ3_oaaWA1rndELoek?rlkey=6fkhc4v20d3am1441pn0fcws6&st=bhfenu70&dl=0
>
>
> My queries now - why they have not offered 50% discount this
time?
>
> and, please advise what should I do from here now?
>
> as always, grateful for all your help and guidance on this.
>
>
> [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=1936.msg25584#msg25584
date=1718102980]
> [member=1774]Admiration[/member] I would suggest waiting for
the notice to owner. As long as you challenge it within 14 days
of the date of issue the discount should be reoffered anyway, so
there is limited risk in carrying on.
>
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/kqgjotwqb5bemieec41l7/AHkkWYJ3_oaaWA1rndELoek?rlkey=6fkhc4v20d3am1441pn0fcws6&st=bhfenu70&dl=0
[/quote]
#Post#: 29807--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 13, 2024, 6:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Admiration link ---
>
> Thank you [member=12]Incandescent[/member].
>
> I am willing to respond. I need guidance on how I do it, and
what are things I need to put in my appeal to get it right
please.
>
> Also, wanted to check if the communication from here onwards
from council will be through email or a portal or they will send
letters again, if you know, please?
>
> Many Thanks
>
> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=1936.msg29676#msg29676
date=1720808017]
> You must respond to the Notice to Owner, because if you don't
you lose all chance of appealing to the adjudicators.
>
> The discount is normally only ever offered on the PCN, but
many councils do re-offer it when refusing reps against a
Notice to Owner. Whether Bradford do you'll only find out when
you submit representations. If you do, make sure you submit them
within 14 days like a PCN. Their refusal letter is tosh; there
is no legal requirement for loading at the roadside to be
continuous. Sone unloading requires several trips to and from
the vehicle, which drivers usually lock to prevent theft.
>
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Their portal is best, because you get a response on-line which
you must keep carefully, (print it out as well). Rejections to
formal representations against a Notice to Owner must be in the
form of a letter in the post.
If cp8759 is going to prepare some text for you, I'll stand
aside at this point.
#Post#: 29828--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Loading Bay - Code 25 - Bradford
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 14, 2024, 10:02 am
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Why have the authority not used the mandated contravention
grounds?
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