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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 27, 2024, 2:57 pm
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Well the CEO didn't take a photo of any zone entrance signs at
all:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/DnfaD1d.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/5rtSgJL.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/XoqWmff.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/l993GAU.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/juxaDbU.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/pv8zZb4.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/SipqsrL.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/BMWq4Fp.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/zAP4ZCb.jpeg
If this is all they can come up with at the tribunal, a
submission of no case to answer might suffice. You certainly
don't want to mention any evidential deficiencies in your
representations though, as you don't want to forewarn them and
give them a chance to submit better evidence to the adjudicator.
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 28, 2024, 12:05 am
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True
How do I delete that post or edit it
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: May 28, 2024, 1:36 am
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--- Quote from: Choice4 link ---
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> True
> How do I delete that post or edit it
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--- End Quote ---
Click on 'Modify' at top r-h corner of each of your own posts.
(N>B> this function expires after a few days)
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: June 11, 2024, 2:13 pm
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I received notice to owner today
Please can someone help me regarding what to do for the next
step
There are a list of options to select on grounds for
representation which I can make online
I haven’t done this before but my grounds are
1. There were no clear signs in zone G1 informing me that there
was a football match on that day
I was told the sign was at the beginning of E1 but if one didn’t
enter the road from E1 it would not be seen
And no evidence of the sign was attached to the photographic
images on line
Is this enough to write or do I need to write more
Thanks
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: June 12, 2024, 12:18 am
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See notice to keeper which option do I select
HTML https://imgur.com/a/murXhQf
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 12, 2024, 1:39 am
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HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/782724/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf
OP, there is a significant conflict here between the signs.
The 'parking' sign has been amended to reflect AFC's success and
purports to add controls on 'event days' on Saturdays
'1-8.30pm', but unfortunately the lower sign states that there
is a pre-existing 'order prohibiting waiting by goods
vehicles[and buses] from [Mon-Sun] '6.30pm - M'night'.
They may not overlap, but do.
I suggest looking at the(or both) traffic orders.
And post a GSV location, we need to look at how widespread these
'no waiting' signs are.
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: June 12, 2024, 4:20 am
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I don’t think the sign at the location is the problem
The problem is that they are saying there was an event on the
day parked there
But there must be a sign to warn motorists that an event is on
but there was no sign of an event in G1 they said the sign was
in E1
I appealed and it was rejected
So my next step is to do representation
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 12, 2024, 6:59 am
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I don’t think the sign at the location is the problem
But IMO it is. A sign may only reflect the provisions in a
traffic order and in this case you may not have a waiting
restriction and a parking place extant on the same length of
road as here. Which brings the traffic orders into the equation,
which means we need to know where in Garratt Lane you were
parked.
A 'goods vehicle' could fit wholly within the parking place
especially here where there isn't a weight limit attached to the
restriction.
So, can you post a GSV of the location pl.
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: June 12, 2024, 2:46 pm
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This is the google street view of where I parked
I parked exactly where that bike is parked under the road sign.
And the picture of the road sign was also sent with the PCN
But please how do I write a representation
HTML https://maps.apple.com/?address=London,%20SW17%200NN,%20England&auid=12106244587369337672&ll=51.432868,-0.182023&lsp=6489&q=SW17%200NN&_mvs=CjYJwxJ5M263SUARsARO5pNNx78ZAACSlKDZTEAh6Z6Cbk3wakApktwsMyfPC8AxAAAAAAAAAAASJgoQODM5IEdhcnJhdHQgTGFuZRIKV2FuZHN3b3J0aBoGTG9uZG9u
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: June 13, 2024, 2:01 pm
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Please what evidence do I need to provide for representation I
only have 28 days to do it
The reason I am thinking of writing are
1. The ticket issuer didn’t attach a reason why I was given a
ticket
2. It was when I appealed I was told a football match was on and
it was an event day
3.There was no notice about the match at the beginning of zone
G1 but I was told there was a notice at the beginning of E1
4. I didn’t approach the road from E1 so i didn’t see the notice
5. I have a photo of previous notice they had kept at the
beginning of G1 on match days and it looks they have stopped
putting the notice and moved it to another location
Are these reasons enough for a representation or should I add
something else
Thanks
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