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PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 15, 2024, 1:50 pm
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Please can someone help!
I got a parking ticket from Wandswoth council on Saturday 27th
of April on contravention 12( parking without permit)
But as this was a Saturday i didn’t need permit to park.
Sometimes when there is football on for AFC Wimbledon there is a
notice as you enter the street to warn you of event day , but on
this day there was no notice
I appealed the ticket and it was rejected saying there was
football on in this day and there was a notice on entry of E1
only, there was no notice on entry for G1 where I was parked
Please can I contest this further or pay up, I have attached the
PCN, and the appeal rejection letter
They used to put up notice on G1 entry on event days but they
don’t anymore
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#Post#: 22625--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 15, 2024, 3:40 pm
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Please give us a link to the relevant zones.
Where a street in one of the zones runs into another of the
zones, one would not normally expect an EVD sign at the boundary
between two zones that are part of the EVD scheme. EVD signs
must be placed where one enters one of the relevant zones.
#Post#: 22628--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 15, 2024, 3:50 pm
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The road is Garrat lane in Tooting SW17
Please how do I send the link to the zone
I didn’t see any notice at the beginning of the road although
they used to put it before
#Post#: 22629--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 15, 2024, 4:04 pm
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This is the type of notice they put at the beginning of the
street on E1 but i took a picture on that day and this notice
wasn’t there although the council letter was saying there was a
notice on E1
There was none
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#Post#: 22635--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 15, 2024, 4:19 pm
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I understand what you're getting at now. With an event day sign
right by the sign for one of the zones, but with no applicable
zones on it, it could be considered confusing if you then pass a
sign for another zone with no event day sign. You could be
mislead into thinking there were no restrictions for that zone.
So if you want to take this further, you'll have to wait for the
Notice to Owner and submit a formal representation on the above
lines. Note that whilst the discount option is lost, they
normally re-offer it when rejecting reps, although there is no
guarantee on this.
Others may wish to comment so do wait a bit.
#Post#: 23253--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 20, 2024, 3:14 pm
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[member=1750]Choice4[/member] please read the guidance here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>and then re-post the PCN without any redactions. Also please
give us the location of the exact spot where you entered zone
G1.
I do agree you have a viable case, if zone G1 is an event zone
the signs should say so and if the zone sign did not tell you
about this, the signage is inadequate IMO.
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 20, 2024, 3:40 pm
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I am sending the link
HTML https://i.imgur.com/EtTc9Km.jpeg
The road is garratt lane which starts from Tooting Broadway all
the way to Wandsworth
At the end of E1 zone there is a round about one goes to
Wimbledon Road and the other continues as garratt lane and
that’s when G1 zone begins
Normally there is a notice at the beginning of the round about
as you enter G1 zone from E1 to inform motorists of event days
but on this day there was no notice as I went back and took
pictures that same day and I didn’t see the notice
Unless they now put the notice in a different location which
wasn’t visible,
The rejection letter from Wandsworth could claims there was a
notice on E1 entrance but i didn’t see it when I took photos
#Post#: 23836--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 25, 2024, 2:52 am
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I still haven’t received a notice to owner
How long does it usually take
I drove around yesterday and I have seen where they put a sign
on E1 but it is misleading as it has a date and not a year also
it is not at the beginning of G1 but at the beginning of E1 zone
So it is misleading to motorists especially those who don’t
enter the road from E1 entrance
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 25, 2024, 4:45 am
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This is what the Statutory Guidance says: -
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> Issuing the notice to owner
> If the penalty charge is not paid the enforcement authority
may issue a notice to owner (NtO). The purpose of this is to
ensure that the PCN was received by the vehicle owner and to
remind the vehicle owner that the payment in full is now due
and, if it is not paid within a further 28 days, it may be
increased.
>
> The NtO may be issued 28 days after serving the penalty
charge, and we expect authorities to send them within 56 days.
The ultimate time limit, in exceptional circumstances, is 6
months [footnote 33] from the ‘relevant date’. There should be a
very good reason for waiting that long to serve an NtO. The
regulations set out the information that the NtO must [footnote
34] give.
>
> There are different requirements when the penalty charge
notice acts as the NtO - see the section in this guidance on
‘Enforcement using approved devices’).
>
> Authorities must [footnote 35] specify on the NtO (or the PCN
when served by post) the statutory grounds on which
representations may be made. Where a photograph or other camera
evidence shows that the parking contravention took place,
authorities should send this with the NtO as it should help to
prevent unfounded representations.
>
> Where a penalty charge is served on a vehicle with a
diplomatic registration plate, but no payment is received within
28 days, an enforcement authority should not issue an NtO but
keep a record of the unpaid penalty charge.
>
> Every year the Foreign and Commonwealth Office will request
details of all unpaid penalty charge notices and then seek
payment from the relevant contraveners.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-enforcement-of-parking-contraventions/guidance-for-local-authorities-on-enforcing-parking-restrictions#policy-and-administrative-functions
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Re: PCN from Wandswoth council on a football day
DIR By: Choice4
Date: May 25, 2024, 7:09 am
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Thank you
I guess I will have to wait until I receive it
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