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#Post#: 22288--------------------------------------------------
NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: Monkeytennis
Date: May 13, 2024, 9:58 am
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Hi everyone,
I've been over to Pepipoo however it appears to be down
presently so I cannot complete the NIP Wizard properly. I have
used the format
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? – South Yorkshire Police
Date of the alleged offence: - 1/3/2024
Date of the NIP: - 19/4/24
Date you received the NIP: - 22/4/2024
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP:
important): - A6109 Wilton Gardens at Kimberworth Road
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded
delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship
to the vehicle? – Main Driver
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened)
telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things
that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave
anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious
reasons – I was being tailgated by the driver of another vehicle
at the time of the alleged offence. I genuinely don’t know if I
did fail to comply with the red traffic light signals, it’s
possible that the light was on amber and not red.
As stated, i'm not the registered keeper and having spoken to
the person that is, I'm informed that they didn't receive a NIP
to request or confirm details of the driver until around 6 weeks
after the alleged offence.
Thanks
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#Post#: 22289--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: 666
Date: May 13, 2024, 10:08 am
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--- Quote from: Monkeytennis link ---
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been over to Pepipoo however it appears to be down
presently so I cannot complete the NIP Wizard properly. I have
used the format
>
> NIP Details and Circumstances
> What is the name of the Constabulary? – South Yorkshire Police
>
> Date of the alleged offence: - 1/3/2024
>
> Date of the NIP: - 19/4/24
>
> Date you received the NIP: - 22/4/2024
>
> Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP:
important): - A6109 Wilton Gardens at Kimberworth Road
> Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
>
> Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded
delivery? - First
>
> If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your
relationship to the vehicle? – Main Driver
>
> How many current points do you have? - 0
>
> Provide a description of events (if you know what happened)
telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things
that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave
anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious
reasons – I was being tailgated by the driver of another vehicle
at the time of the alleged offence. I genuinely don’t know if I
did fail to comply with the red traffic light signals, it’s
possible that the light was on amber and not red.
>
>
> As stated, i'm not the registered keeper and having spoken to
the person that is, I'm informed that they didn't receive a NIP
to request or confirm details of the driver until around 6 weeks
after the alleged offence.
>
> Thanks
>
--- End Quote ---
Are you sure "the person" is the RK? I.e. have you seen the V5C,
and if so are his name and address correct? Is it possible the
vehicle is leased?
Any other questions?
#Post#: 22299--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: Monkeytennis
Date: May 13, 2024, 11:46 am
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Hi. The RK is a family member so yes I am sure.
#Post#: 22301--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 13, 2024, 12:06 pm
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Have you seen the V5C and are all the details on it correct? Has
the vehicle been recently acquired or has the RK recently
changed address?
It is important to make sure that there was no reason for this
late NIP (if you are considering defending any charge based on a
late NIP). It has not been delayed in the post - it was issued
late and that doesn't happen very often.
Nonetheless, whatever issues there are with the timeliness of
the NIP, you must respond to the request for driver's details.
#Post#: 22303--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: May 13, 2024, 12:25 pm
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It is possible that the initial NIP was issued late, although
this would require an over-ride.
More likely, that the address on the V5C is not the current
address of the person claiming to be the RK, or if it is, then
an earlier NIP was most likely sent and apparently not received.
Final possibility is that this was reported by a member of the
public, possibly too late for the police to be able to ascertain
the RK's details in time to issue a NIP within the 14 days,
which might provide an exemption to the 14 day rule.
#Post#: 22305--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: BigBazz45
Date: May 13, 2024, 12:50 pm
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GSV, including the camera:
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#Post#: 22362--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: May 14, 2024, 2:46 am
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A Notice issued that long after the offence is all but certain
to NOT be the first issued.
It is either a reminder to one (not received/not seen) sent
earlier (not all say they are a reminder, some are quite
literally just a reprint with just the issue date changed) or a
follow up Notice after a the RK has named the keeper.
LOOK AT and CHECK the V5c, DO NOT take the keeper's word as
gospel, we see too many posts from those convinced they are the
RK who turn out not to be (address wrong or it's a leased or
Financed car where the lender is the RK) to take peoples word
for it.
#Post#: 22366--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: Monkeytennis
Date: May 14, 2024, 4:03 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
>
> Have you seen the V5C and are all the details on it correct?
Has the vehicle been recently acquired or has the RK recently
changed address?
>
> It is important to make sure that there was no reason for this
late NIP (if you are considering defending any charge based on a
late NIP). It has not been delayed in the post - it was issued
late and that doesn't happen very often.
>
> Nonetheless, whatever issues there are with the timeliness of
the NIP, you must respond to the request for driver's details.
>
--- End Quote ---
I know that the RK is my family member because I live with them.
#Post#: 22370--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: Monkeytennis
Date: May 14, 2024, 4:13 am
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--- Quote from: The Rookie link ---
>
> A Notice issued that long after the offence is all but certain
to NOT be the first issued.
>
> It is either a reminder to one (not received/not seen) sent
earlier (not all say they are a reminder, some are quite
literally just a reprint with just the issue date changed) or a
follow up Notice after a the RK has named the keeper.
>
> LOOK AT and CHECK the V5c, DO NOT take the keeper's word as
gospel, we see too many posts from those convinced they are the
RK who turn out not to be (address wrong or it's a leased or
Financed car where the lender is the RK) to take peoples word
for it.
>
--- End Quote ---
I've seen the V5. I've also been told by the RK that they
responded to a reminder having not received any prior letter.
#Post#: 22390--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP - Failing to comply with red light signal
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: May 14, 2024, 7:01 am
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So what were the dates for the reminder?
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