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       #Post#: 22316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 13, 2024, 2:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: Neil B link ---
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       > What are the consistent references to "we"?
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       I'd also really like to know the answer to this.
       [member=1594]chueewowee[/member] when is your court hearing due?
       I'd love to get a transcript.
       #Post#: 22318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: May 13, 2024, 3:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > [quote author=Neil B link=topic=1840.msg22266#msg22266
       date=1715601129]
       > What are the consistent references to "we"?
       >
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       I'd also really like to know the answer to this.
       [member=1594]chueewowee[/member] when is your court hearing due?
       I'd love to get a transcript.
       [/quote]
       I was simply going to lock this garbage. If you want to play,
       fee free!
       #Post#: 22337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 13, 2024, 5:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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       > I was simply going to lock this garbage. If you want to play,
       fee free!
       >
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       Just like most FMOTL content, it might provide an endless source
       of entertainment  :D
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       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: Lodesman
       Date: May 15, 2024, 5:23 am
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       Why not move it to :-
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       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: May 15, 2024, 8:17 am
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       > Why not move it to :-
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       'WE' wouldn't appreciate that.
       #Post#: 22565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: Lodesman
       Date: May 15, 2024, 8:50 am
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       :)
       #Post#: 22624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: May 15, 2024, 3:30 pm
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       I don't think he (or should it be "they"?) is a FMOTL though.
       He's not once mentioned Magna Carta, common law or Admiralty
       courts, and he hasn't said "I (or "we") didn't contract to pay
       CAZ and ULEZ fees!"
       Maybe it's a Welsh thing...
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       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 15, 2024, 4:19 pm
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       [member=691]ManxTom[/member] see reply 15:
       --- Quote from: chueewowee link ---
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       > In order to save pointless replies, informing about  procedure
       of pcn appeals: As I stated in my opening post, the case is
       about to reach court.
       >
       > That means:
       > -  we have not accepted a demand and,
       > - offers for solution have not been satisfactory frpom our
       point of view.
       > - 'Court' means a court of law - a civil court at the county
       court, not an  adjudicator or a TEC.
       > - Time for representations to the LA are over.
       >
       > Moreover, we did not accept the pcn, on th ebasis of claim of
       unlawful.
       > We did not appeal to an adjudicator because that implies
       forgoing redress at a court of law; a civil court.
       >
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       Like the FMOTL brigade, he is labouring under the
       misapprehension that:
       1) It's up to him to "accept" or "not accept" the PCN,
       2) It's somehow up to him whether the routes of redress are
       satisfactory,
       3) It's up to him to decide which venue has jurisdiction,
       4) He can unilaterally ignore Parliament's decision to remove
       such matters from the jurisdiction of the county court and give
       exclusive jurisdiction to the adjudicator.
       I wonder if he'll come back after he's lost and tell us that the
       courts are all "corrupt"?
       #Post#: 22644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: May 15, 2024, 5:09 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
       >
       > I wonder if he'll come back after he's lost
       --- End Quote ---
       Not a chance.
       #Post#: 25761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
       your authority - yes or no?
   DIR By: chueewowee
       Date: June 12, 2024, 5:46 pm
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       He is back. The he has a name.
       I'm here to teah you a lesson. But I will not spend long; Mainly
       here for good folk, to  encourage htem in the face of miserable
       unreasaonable snide comments that abound everywhere onb these
       islands now.
       Forst I'd like to teach some of you, quite a few of you, some
       mannes.. You're too far away. But let me tell you  You wouldn'tt
       dare in my precense to denonstrate  your poverty of spiirit with
       the same trite, bad manners.  Quite usual amongst the 'PCN
       experts'.
       I see therer eare various snide remarks, including reference to
       FMOTL and 'we'. That's after complaininbg about priciples, and
       thelaw. The common law you thinbk does not exist, when in fact
       it is the just about the  WHOLE of the law, GOVERNING
       princliples.
       Ok Let's begin the show down. I wil get personal, like you have,
       for the sake of the good folk who drop by, becausre yo uar
       enmisleadingf them, in your stuppidity.
       The 'we' is we. Thtaq is not 'I' alone.
       Th ei is not alone, Thats all yo need tonow. We coul dbe the
       whol epublicfor all you know. And ther is a we. I t is Father
       and son. My son is an apprectice asked to pay £235.00, with
       threats to his livlihood upon enforcement after ignoring his
       ountnence to an initial fine of £90 or so, as I already
       mentioned.
       That should be enough to get you impovershed ones going. You
       know, the ones who are the same as the inmpoverished WEF minions
       obn our councils, government and in fact, all intistutions,
       polluting our whole public life.
       You see, what you have usually won do date, is avoiding paying
       when the LA made a simple mistake in the letters on a page... OK
       fair enough, but really you were still liable otherwise. Its
       apetty matter. OUrs was a great matter like so many other poor
       folk hit with penalties for CAZ as first time, unknowing
       entrants.
       
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