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#Post#: 22168--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: chueewowee
Date: May 12, 2024, 5:49 am
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just posted up another relevant attachment in post above. You
can see the pcn bill does include an initial CAZ toll fee.
#Post#: 22176--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 12, 2024, 8:14 am
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Yes court of law, is not the usual avenue, tese tings are well
sirted normally. A court of law present no grounds that haven't
been envisaged.
Really?
Your cause of action being what? You don't have to give
specifics, just a general heading would do e.g. breach of
contract, negligence etc. What estimate of costs against you
have you made if the council is forced to deal with a claim and
argues successfully that your claim is frivolous? If they were
to get counsel's opinion, and IMO this could happen, they well
might be claiming £'000s from you.
And why have you chosen to not engage with the council's formal
complaints procedure which could then lead to the Ombudsman, a
process which has been put in place to deal with, inter alia,
claims of maladministration without the need to resort to
courts. Proportionality and least expense.
And by the way, CAZ signs are now part of the HC family:
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/know-your-traffic-signs#:~:text=It%20is%20an%20accompaniment%20to,gates%2C%20share%20space%2C%20parallel%20crossings
#Post#: 22192--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: slapdash
Date: May 12, 2024, 2:05 pm
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Keep an eye out for an order for recovery. With 6 months or so
passed one may have been issued, you can check by looking at the
PCN status online.
After that it's a warrant (with various compliance fees added)
and an enforcement agent collecting your possessions.
An ongoing county court claim doesn't affect the authority's
right (but not obligation) to proceed in accordance with the
regulations.
#Post#: 22219--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: May 12, 2024, 5:28 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
>
> ... And why have you chosen to not engage with the council's
formal complaints procedure which could then lead to the
Ombudsman, a process which has been put in place to deal with,
inter alia, claims of maladministration without the need to
resort to courts. Proportionality and least expense...
>
--- End Quote ---
Because the OP is acting from a misguided sense of injustice and
"the principle of it", and seems to be intent on cutting their
nose off to spite their face?
Seems to me to be a daft choice of hill to die on...
(Particularly if Bristol have included the original unpaid £9
toll in the charge which many people seem to think is sufficient
to invalidate the ticket from the outset.)
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Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: chueewowee
Date: May 12, 2024, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
>
> Your cause of action being what?
>
> And why have you chosen to not engage with the council's
formal complaints procedure which could then lead to the
Ombudsman, a process which has been put in place to deal with,
inter alia, claims of maladministration without the need to
resort to courts. Proportionality and least expense.
>
> And by the way, CAZ signs are now part of the HC family:
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/know-your-traffic-signs#:~:text=It%20is%20an%20accompaniment%20to,gates%2C%20share%20space%2C%20parallel%20crossings
>
--- End Quote ---
cause is given above; not as stated in claim, but given as
explanation to you.
thanks for the heads up wrt to HC - I had checked earlier last
year, and was about to check again. it wasnot there when the pcn
was issued.
I think the WHY We have chosen not to is given in part above;
Listen to what I said; if the judge thinks we have a case it
will proceed.
Our case has got nothing to do with maladministration.
I dont wish to be drawn into further questions, without
respectful questions.
Read what I said above, first If you wan to make it you busines
to know more, ask respectiully.
I merely wanted to know if you received a letter of
notification, Thank you.
#Post#: 22231--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: chueewowee
Date: May 12, 2024, 6:36 pm
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--- Quote from: slapdash link ---
>
>
> An ongoing county court claim doesn't affect the authority's
right (but not obligation) to proceed in accordance with the
regulations.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks, yes.
Naturally We'll be seeking an injunction on that, based upon
pedning claim, if accepted.
#Post#: 22233--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: chueewowee
Date: May 12, 2024, 6:51 pm
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[quote author=ManxTom
Because the OP is acting from a misguided sense of injustice and
"the principle of it"
(Particularly if Bristol have included the original unpaid £9
toll in the charge which many people seem to think is sufficient
to invalidate the ticket from the outset.)
[/quote]
You dont guide my sense of justice. You habve't informed me of
my principles and you haven't been able to see them when written
either.
Get your hands off the keyboard; Try relecting on what I wrote
before you say anuything.
And Watch your manners.
The 'OP' is myself, party to this discussion, not someone who
happened to be here who you can talk about in the third person
with snide remarks like that. As if you are what - a superior?
Wrong on both counts.
On the second count, they changed the wording on the second
count.
It doen't matte rwhat 'many people think'.
Principles do matter. That is what the law rests upon and how
cases are determined.
Go somewhere else and try to be annoying, but dont try to annoy
me again.
This is my topic, don't litter it with snide comments, WHEN;
In kindness I bothered to say a little more than I perhaps
should have, given that I've seen the likes of yourself stepping
into treads like this with your haughty self-projection with
nonsense.
#Post#: 22234--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: chueewowee
Date: May 12, 2024, 7:01 pm
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The topic is closed as far as I am concerned.
Some genuine and thoughtful replies have prompted me to say a
little more about the matter than I otherwise wished to on a
public board.
Unfortunately that has been taken as an invitation to offer
disrespectful comments, which are themselves, though perhaps
expected, ccompletely erronous in their notions, having failed
to read what I wrote, or else being incapable of critical
thought and reflection.
People in a rush.
#Post#: 22266--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: Neil B
Date: May 13, 2024, 6:52 am
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What are the consistent references to "we"?
#Post#: 22313--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAZ/ULEZ areas : Were letters sent to local residents by
your authority - yes or no?
DIR By: Neil B
Date: May 13, 2024, 1:58 pm
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--- Quote from: chueewowee link ---
>
>
> But it doesn't have to end badly; that's up to the judge and
the legal argument they are presented with; first htey decide if
you have a case that is worth hearing.
> I wonder how many , if any , have actually take such a case of
sign authorisation to court. I know of none.
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No surprise at the zero figure because the court you describe
has no jurisdiction for such matters.
That means they cannot hear your case simply because the
Tribunal avenue is/was available.
Reminds me of a case where some fool took Newham to Small Claims
for stress of receiving pcns.
Newham didn't turn up and he won 4 X £5,000.
No doubt big celebrations ensued.
BUT the case was re-heard with Newham citing 'no jurisdiction'
and all £20,000 had to be paid back, together with whatever
costs Newham incurred for writing those two words.
You Sir are a fool trying to garner some credibility for your
indignation over a pathetic first world problem.
This forum prides itself on assisting against some often quite
appalling council behaviour.
NO ONE READING YOUR POSTS SHOULD BE MISLED INTO THINKING YOUR
ACTIONS ARE THE WAY TO BEHAVE OR PROCEED.
This thread should be moved to the Flame Pit.
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