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is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest584
Date: April 30, 2024, 6:29 am
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Hiya, hoping someone can help me.
So i received a pcn recently, cant quite believe it, as ive been
super careful.
I want to appeal and wanted to ask if it is valid, because there
now time from on the notice, only a time to.
Basically, we have a little road train in our town, which has
its own parking area, its a huge section, and the road train
hasnt worked for over a year, you can see it all chained up, i
guess for repairs. I recently was out and my little ones, who
have cochlears and have learning difficulties, were biting on
there cochlears. Cochlears are 10,000 pounds each, and when i
realised i quickly had to find somewhere to pull in safely to
stop them. I know the road train is not working, so i pulled in
and sorted them out. I assume some camera must have picked me
up, because there was noone around, and if there was i would
have explained it. I caused no issues, and i must have been
there about 5 minutes, there was no train, i wasnt in the way.
can i appeal this, on these grounds. I do have a disabled badge
for my sons, but there are literally no disabled spaces around
this area.
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest17
Date: April 30, 2024, 7:18 am
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We had a similar incident on Pepipoo. Same location.
IIRC it was a passing camera van and the Road Train doesn't run
at this time of year.
We need the exact location via GSV please and documents (front
and back).
The older case was, I believe, a bus stop contravention rather
than the contravention given here.
Plus we have a will/may glitch.
Mike
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest584
Date: April 30, 2024, 7:39 am
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thankyou, really a similar incident. the train lanes take up so
much valuable parking, that disabled people could make use of
when the train is not working, its such a shame, as the council
know the train hasnt been running for some time now.
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#Post#: 21164--------------------------------------------------
Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest17
Date: May 1, 2024, 2:17 am
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OP----in the first instance I would keep it simple as per the
attached draft.
If they reject then we can hit them with the procedural
impropriety (will/may) and the contravention being incorrect
(it's a no stopping prohibition).
HTML https://tro.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/TRO/Bridgend/CC11-REV1-E2-PDF-Land-Train-1.pdf
Name
Address
VRM:-CU56SXP
APPEAL AGAINST PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE-- NO. PT21541165
The Charge
Contravention 23 - Parked in a parking place or area not
designated for that class of vehicle
Circumstances
My vehicle made an emergency stop at this location because my
two children, who have learning difficulties, were biting their
cochlear implants. I enclose a scan of their Blue Badge, which
obviously would not have been registered by your passing camera
car.
I would ask that the Council take this into account and use its
discretion to cancel this PCN.
When considering this letter I trust the Council will have
regard to my children’s disability and its statutory obligation
under the Equality Act 2010 to take their disability into
account when considering the circumstances of this case.
Should the Council withhold their discretion I would like to
have a copy of the video from the camera car.
Yours
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Mike
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest584
Date: May 1, 2024, 2:21 am
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thankyou mike appreciate. will let you know
#Post#: 21201--------------------------------------------------
Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 1, 2024, 8:07 am
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OP, the sign states that this is also a bus stop 24/7 * so
alternative use by BB holders isn't an option.
- the no stopping sign is 7 day 9-9pm, but when the buses run is
anyone's guess.
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest584
Date: May 1, 2024, 8:16 am
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there are 2 signs on the road, one sayes for the train only and
mentions no buses, and the other sides sayes train and buses.
on the floor it sayes train lane, i parked on the other side
where it sayes trains only.
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest584
Date: May 1, 2024, 8:22 am
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this is the sign i saw
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: guest584
Date: May 1, 2024, 8:25 am
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having looked on the side there is actually a bus sign but you
dont see that, and to be honest its confusing, as i dont think
ive ever seen a bus stop here either, and ive lived here all my
life. shouldnt the 2 signs not be conflicting.
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Re: is my pcn valid?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 1, 2024, 10:05 am
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OP, we need precision because of the very issues here and you
posted a GSV which focused on the 'buses plus train' sign.
Can you link the video here or stills so this issue can be put
to bed pl. Buses don't have parking places, they have
clearways(if anything at all).
In any event, the contravention is incorrect as observed earlier
because whether left or right they're clearways, not parking
places, therefore parking contraventions cannot be committed.
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