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#Post#: 20730--------------------------------------------------
31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra Enforcement)
Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: Aliraza
Date: April 26, 2024, 4:50 pm
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I received a penalty notice, and any assistance in this matter
would be highly appreciated. The incident occurred when the red
car unexpectedly merged from the inside lane of the roundabout
into the first lane. This maneuver was particularly surprising
because both the first and second lanes continue straight, and
they merge into one after the traffic light. It seems illogical
for the driver of the red car to merge into the first lane and
obstruct my path. If the red car had returned to their lane
while I was entering the box, the situation would have been
different.
Here is the link to see the video.
HTML https://youtu.be/3LRLnW5hswE
The pic of PCN is also attached.
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#Post#: 20734--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 26, 2024, 6:22 pm
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Very, very, poor, practice in putting a light-controlled
pedestrian crossing almost directly after the YBJ !
The video shows the red car probably vastly exceeding the speed
limit, shooting round into your path, before you would have had
any time to react and stop before entering the box. I would be
tempted to take this to adjudication at London Tribunals, but
you'd have to risk the full PCN penalty. I would have thought
any adjudicator worth his salt would at least receive your
appeal favourably.
#Post#: 20837--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: Aliraza
Date: April 27, 2024, 5:12 pm
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I would appreciate if someone could provide me with a template
for fighting this PCN, or subsequent action.
#Post#: 20940--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 28, 2024, 6:38 pm
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[member=1595]Aliraza[/member] please post the remaining pages of
the PCN.
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Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: Aliraza
Date: April 29, 2024, 4:01 am
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--- Quote from: Aliraza link ---
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> Here is the remaining part of the PCN.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
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#Post#: 21055--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 29, 2024, 5:38 pm
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Draft representation:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Barking and Dagenham,
I challenge liability because the alleged contravention did not
occur. I approached the box in lane 1 and a red car war
travelling to my right in lane 3, which is the lane for traffic
travelling round the roundabout rather than taking my exit. The
red car unexpectedly cut across my lane and took the place
beyond the box that I had reasonably anticipated would
accomodate my car.
In the circumstances the contravention did not occur, and I
invite you to cancel the penalty charge.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Send it online and make sure to keep a screenshot of the
confirmation page.
#Post#: 21090--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: Aliraza
Date: April 30, 2024, 4:08 am
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Many thanks, PCN challenged and I will keep you posted.
#Post#: 23317--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: Aliraza
Date: May 21, 2024, 3:10 am
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Dear Respected Members,
My appeal has been rejected. I have uploaded the recent
correspondence and am looking forward to your kind advice on
this matter.
Thank you.
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#Post#: 23319--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 21, 2024, 3:20 am
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It's the usual Fob-Off letter almost all of which is just a
description of yellow box junctions and what they imply to a
motorist. They totally fail to consider your reps and also
erroneously refer to "mitigating circumstances". You have not
claimed any mitigation, only that you had a space at the box
exit when you decided to enter the box. I would take this all
the way.
#Post#: 23369--------------------------------------------------
Re: 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction (Camra
Enforcement) Gurdwara Way Barking
DIR By: Aliraza
Date: May 21, 2024, 6:11 am
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Many thanks for your reply, can you plz guide me what should I
do to fight this all the way. I don’t care if the penalty
increases or they refuse my appeal.
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