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Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 3, 2024, 6:17 pm
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> [member=1592]Parky24[/member] unfortunately the council has up
to six months from the date of the alleged contravention to
serve a notice to owner. I wouldn't chase them up because if
they miss the deadline then they lose.
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Just to add that if there is a 'PCN status enquiry" option on
their website, that you look to see if an NtO has been sent, but
apart from that you just have to wait.
#Post#: 25539--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: Parky24
Date: June 10, 2024, 2:45 pm
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Thanks everyone. I have now received my NTO which includes a
list of specified grounds for appeal. I am unsure which to you.
I don't seem to be allowed to attach any more images
In the meantime -- one of their reasons for rejecting my initial
appeal was that this car park has more than one machine.
The so called car park has a public road running through it.
There is a section of car park on either side of the road, each
with its own entrance. The area where I parked has ONE machine.
I didn't realise both sides of the road counted as one car
park. I recently revisted (on foot) and took a photo which
clearly says tickets are valid for this car park only. I believe
this is misleading unless they also state that both sides of
Bluebell Lane count as one carpark.
Any advice would be welcome
#Post#: 25540--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 10, 2024, 2:49 pm
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> I don't seem to be allowed to attach any more images
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Space for attaching images here is very limited - have a read of
this for guidance
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
#Post#: 25541--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: Parky24
Date: June 10, 2024, 2:55 pm
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thanks, I had forgotten those instructions
#Post#: 25543--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: Parky24
Date: June 10, 2024, 3:05 pm
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Image of specified grounds:
HTML https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53783234350/in/dateposted-public/
Which of these would anyone suggest I use?
Image of board indicating payment valid for this car park only
HTML https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53783033638/in/dateposted-public/
I think they should be very clear that the car park across the
road is considered the same one
#Post#: 25773--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 12, 2024, 6:19 pm
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[member=1592]Parky24[/member] the relevant ground is that the
alleged contravention did not occur, but don't use the paper
form, you want to make representations online via the council
website.
In the first instance I'd recommend you post a draft
representation on here and we'll check it over for you.
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Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: Parky24
Date: July 9, 2024, 9:34 am
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Over three months after the supposed offence, I finally got a
letter today accepting my appeal. I found the last sentence
rather amusing - they clearly have no intention of making their
signage clearer.
"Please note That I will be unable to cancel any further Penalty
Charge Notices issued to your vehicle in similar circumstances"
Thanks to everyone who gave me advice.
HTML https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53845897333/sizes/z/
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Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without
displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 9, 2024, 10:45 am
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Well done for proving me wrong ! Their last sentence, if used in
a reps refusal letter would be good for an appeal based on
procedural impropriety by fettering their discretion.
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