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Penalty Charge Notice - Manchester City Council - Eastlands
Residents - Visiting a Resident in a Newly Restricted Area
DIR By: motor
Date: April 24, 2024, 11:26 am
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Hi All,
1.TOPIC TITLE. give the details of the penalty charge notice
(PCN) – include:
Council name or other authority: Manchester City Council
The alleged contravention (summarise - no need to quote in
full): 12 - Parked in a residents or shared parking place
without clearly displaying either a permit or voucher or pay and
display ticket
Location: Rolleston Avenue
Date of contravention: 20/04/24
2. Outline your case/tell your story/explain the problem and how
we might help.
I was visiting a friend in Manchester as I do very frequently.
She lives on Holland Street, but her back garden is accessed
from Rolleston Avenue. The area has recently become part of the
Eastlands Residents permit parking scheme due to a new arena
(Co-op Live) being built and opening to the public. My friend
has applied for a residents permit for her car, which is now
active. The letters received by my friend lead her to believe
that Rolleston Avenue at the back wouldn't be permitted, which
is a cul-de-sac. I tend to park my car round the back when
visiting due to the front not being too safe to leave your car.
I park over the back of her rear garden driveway gated access.
I, and other cars (mostly residents) all received tickets on
20/04/24. My friend is given the option of 2 Free Visitor
permits, however evidence of tenancy/residency at the property
is required for this. Why would a "visitor" need to reside at
the property, isn't that a "resident?" The other option is a
book of 10no 1-day use visitor cards, 2 further books can be
purchased for £5 each. This wouldn't suit our situation as I
visit more than 30 times a year. My friend has applied for the
visitors book, but this hasn't arrived yet, and the other
residents are advising of a backlog at the Council. She logged
onto her portal to see if there was a status update, but there
wasn't anything to show the book application status. She
applied again on 21/04/24 as the option was there again for
that.
I logged an appeal via the website stating:
I was visiting a friend who has applied for an Eastlands
Resident permit
which has become active on her car, however the visitors book of
tickets that she
applied for hasn't come through yet or been actioned. Due to
this, she couldn't provide
me with a visitor parking permit. Upon noticing the ticket on my
car, my friend has
logged into her account and re-applied for the visitors permit
book with the hopes that
this may speed the process up. I can only apologise for parking
my car here without
having access to the permits, but I'm sure you understand the
transition process when
implementing such schemes. My friend moved her cars around in
her garden so that I
could park mine on the grass. I would like to request a gesture
of goodwill from the
council in this instance due to the lack of visitor permits
being supplied to a resident of
the permit scheme. When visiting, I will ensure I park my car
inside the garden until
such a time that the permits have been issued to my friend to
provide to her visitors. I
have attached photo evidence of my car securely parked off
the street in her garden on
21/04/24, this photos is to confirm that my story above is
correct, and I was truthfully
visiting a resident who doesn't have any visitor permits
provided to her by the council
yet.
My friend has also logged an enquiry to the Council via her
permit portal asking for clarity on the "visitor" permit
requiring proof of residency at the permit address.
3. Post the PCN and all subsequent notices or correspondence.
The
Please see photos of the PCN:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pMbFEH
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pMbFEH
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pM5qhJ
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pM5qhJ
I have also noticed a news post from yesterday regarding this
exact scenario, explaining that the Council haven't managed the
implementation of this scheme very well, and have advised of the
backlog, and that some "residents" have been ticketed. They do
advise that residents PCN's will be cancelled, but I am a
visitor.
See link to the news post:
HTML https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/people-living-near-new-co-29041752
HTML https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/people-living-near-new-co-29041752
Thanks in advance.
#Post#: 20519--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Manchester City Council - Eastlands
Residents - Visiting a Resident in a Newly Restricted Ar
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 24, 2024, 1:42 pm
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OK, so you've submitted an informal challenge to the PCN. Please
keep us informed when they respond, or if you get a Notice to
Owner, (assuming you are the owner).
#Post#: 20876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Manchester City Council - Eastlands
Residents - Visiting a Resident in a Newly Restricted Ar
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 28, 2024, 10:55 am
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[member=1562]motor[/member] that wasn't the wisest informal
challenge because the council photos do not show any evidence of
any contravention whatsoever:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/DxuY7PC.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/fmC8vuN.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/LAxVXc9.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/y7PCpbH.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/kbeSD8T.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/45pUFLL.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/AMNhjN7.png
The photos just show a car parked on a road, nothing more. It
would have been better to avoid any self-incriminating
admissions (such as accepting that you were in a resident permit
zone) and simply state that no contravention occurred. It is
important to remember that in the first instance the council has
to prove its case, you don't have to prove anything if there is
no case to answer.
Anyway what's done is done, let us know when you get a reply.
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