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       Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: naeemv02
       Date: April 23, 2024, 11:20 am
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       Hi All,
       Hoping for some help.
       I recently received a penalty notice for something that I think
       is very unfair. The penalty notice states that I stopped on a
       restricted bus stop or stand. The reality however is as follows:
       - The car in front of me (approx. 4 cars ahead) decided to
       suddenly do a 3 point turn, so myself and the two cars in front
       of me had to suddenly stop (which was in the bus stop) for a
       very short while to allow him/her to finish the maneuver.
       - I did not leave the car, I had to reduce my speed and stop for
       9 seconds which they have provided video evidence for.
       - One of my back headlight stopped working, but I'm not sure
       that should affect anything.
       - It's not a bus lane but a bus stop. I did not park the car in
       any way shape or form, but stopped to allow the person in front
       to complete a three point turn.
       Any pointers/assistance with appealing this ticket from
       Redbridge Council is much appreciated.
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       #Post#: 20405--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: naeemv02
       Date: April 23, 2024, 11:38 am
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       Just to add to my original post.
       I've done some digging and found a small sign on the bus stop
       which I don't imagine will help my case.
       "No stopping at any time except local buses"
       It would be impossible to see if your driving but nevertheless
       there is a small sign. I've attached some images to make it
       clearer.
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       #Post#: 20412--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: lexy
       Date: April 23, 2024, 12:43 pm
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       Bus stops can have a 'no stopping at any time' restriction, but
       that only applies if you choose to pull over and stop in one. It
       doesn't apply if you're driving along in an active lane of
       traffic and are forced to stop in one by stopped cars in front
       of you.
       Normally we'd ask you to attach the video, but just from that
       photo alone this looks like a pretty frivolous and unfair PCN.
       Councils don't like to back down so easily, but if this got as
       far as an adjudicator I suspect the council would get wrecked
       (as the young people would say) for issuing this. That's just
       nasty.
       #Post#: 20415--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: April 23, 2024, 1:18 pm
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       Having to agree with what Lexy says above. did anyone get in or
       out of your car while you were stopped awaiting for the road
       ahead to clear? Get a copy of or view the CCTV.
       #Post#: 20420--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: April 23, 2024, 2:00 pm
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       There is an exemption to avoid an accident or in an emergency.
       The video would be helpful.
       #Post#: 20429--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: April 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
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       A typical money-grubbing PCN that we see so often on this forum.
       Of course the offence did not occur ! I would, indeed be
       seeking an apology, and would separately raise a complaint with
       the council at this ridiculous PCN.
       However, it has been served so you must go through the process.
       The video would help too, please. It would help us to formulate
       some representations.
       #Post#: 20436--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: April 23, 2024, 4:51 pm
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       Post the video if it confirms all you say if they do not back
       down you would have a good case to apply for costs
       #Post#: 20456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: naeemv02
       Date: April 24, 2024, 3:41 am
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       Thanks for all of your responses. Very much appreciated.
       I can confirm no one got out of the car whilst I waiting for the
       road ahead to clear.
       Link below to the video which clearly shows the incident.
  HTML https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a5x9CEAxs73PZlJ6fut95aVg
       I cant attach the video because the file size is too big.
       #Post#: 20475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: April 24, 2024, 5:48 am
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       Thanks, Did you move off at the same time as all the other
       traffic?
       #Post#: 20523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand (very unfair!) 
   DIR By: naeemv02
       Date: April 24, 2024, 2:21 pm
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       Hi,
       Yes I moved off as soon as the other cars in front of me started
       moving. Not sure what more I could have done.
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