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#Post#: 20386--------------------------------------------------
PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles entering
a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: Helpme101
Date: April 23, 2024, 9:04 am
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DATE:22/04/2024
pcn no: BZ80322380
We sent you a pentalty charge notice on XXXX, in connection with
the above contravention, which explained that, as the person we
believe was the owner (or hirer) of the vehicle, registration
number you had to pay a penalty charge, or write to us
explaining why you believe you did not have to pay it. The PCN
was for the following alleged contravention:
53J Failing to comply with a restriction vehicles entering a
pedestrian zone
We are now sending you this charge certificate because of one of
the following circumstances
1. you did not respond to the penality charge notice
2. you wrote to us but we did not accept your reasons.
3. you appealed but your appeal was rejected and charge was not
paid.
Amount due: £195
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Right so - I did not recieve that letter on 18/03/2024. I just
got the letter on 22/04/2024 stating that as I did not reply I
have to pay 195.
I am able to contend it online - what should i say?
#Post#: 20388--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: Helpme101
Date: April 23, 2024, 9:14 am
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Sorry should also post sign.
Time noted on system is 18:30PM
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#Post#: 20389--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: Helpme101
Date: April 23, 2024, 9:17 am
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On the website where i can challenge it provides following
options to tick.
Statutory grounds for appeal
A list of statutory grounds for appealing a MTC PCN.
Select a reason:
I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time
There was no contravention of an order or failure to comply
with an indication on a sign
The vehicle was being used without my consent
We are a hire firm and the person hiring the vehicle had signed
a statement accepting liability
The penalty charge exceeded the amount applicable in the
circumstances of the case
Moving Traffic reasons
The following reasons relate to moving traffic contraventions
Select a reason:
I have already paid the PCN
I was not at the location on the day
I was not the driver
I was not the owner / keeper of the vehicle
My vehicle had broken down
My vehicle was cloned
My vehicle was stolen
The vehicle was on hire to someone else
or any other reason.
#Post#: 20400--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 23, 2024, 11:01 am
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If you've got a Charge Certificate, you can't submit reps now as
you'r now out-of-time, all you can do is just pay. Don't pay,
though ! There is a third enforcement stage, but it's best if I
post our guidance notes on it: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
#Post#: 20433--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: Helpme101
Date: April 23, 2024, 4:18 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> If you've got a Charge Certificate, you can't submit reps now
as you'r now out-of-time, all you can do is just pay. Don't pay,
though ! There is a third enforcement stage, but it's best if I
post our guidance notes on it: -
>
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you. Yes - I will do all of this. Is there anything else I
can do?
#Post#: 20442--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 23, 2024, 6:22 pm
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Not much, but keep us up-to-date on how you get on.
#Post#: 20809--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 27, 2024, 1:41 pm
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[member=1559]Helpme101[/member] please disregard the information
given above, the correct guidance is here:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/
This is because your PCN is issued under the London Local
Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, while the guide
Incandescent pointed you to is for the Traffic Management Act
2004.
To be fair to [member=12]Incandescent[/member] when he responded
I hadn't written this guide yet, but we do need to make sure the
link to the correct guide is given.
#Post#: 20816--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 27, 2024, 2:09 pm
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--- Quote ---
> To be fair to [member=12]Incandescent[/member] when he
responded I hadn't written this guide yet, but we do need to
make sure the link to the correct guide is given.
--- End Quote ---
We do, indeed !
It's high time a single act covered all of England instead of
this ridiculous "double Act" !
#Post#: 21385--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: Helpme101
Date: May 2, 2024, 6:20 pm
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Hey guys! So the letter (PCN) came through and dated on
18/03/2024 today. What do I do now? I only received it in the
post today and received the charge certificate before it???
The charge certificate is dated 22/04/2024. I feel like they
only sent the PCN a few days ago when they realised I was not
paying.
#Post#: 21388--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Failing to comply with restrictions on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement) - Barking
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 2, 2024, 7:00 pm
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You have not received the PCN within the period allowed to
submit reps or pay it, so in terms of a Statutory Declaration,
you didn't receive it, because they have now issued a Charge
Certificate, and the process has moved on. That's my take on it
anyway.
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