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       #Post#: 20008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: privates
       Date: April 19, 2024, 1:41 pm
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       Furthermore, I had received a PCN earlier this day at 07:39am on
       attending the hotel for availability and received a stupid PCN.
       The hours start at 08:30am so I don't understand how the PCN was
       issued. Also the wheel was apparently over a footpath..
       My appeal :
       To whom it may concern,
       I challenge this on the basis that the photo evidence does not
       show any or the contravention stated being
       committed. The above selections do not apply so I have chosen
       any.
       I ask for this reason this PCN to be cancelled.
       PCN :
  HTML https://ibb.co/FK3nz00
       No images at all but of the PCN attached to the vehicle.
       #Post#: 20303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 22, 2024, 1:02 pm
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       [member=61]privates[/member] I've split this thread out so we
       don't get the two PCNs mixed up.
       The council website now says this:
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/Uptpagm.png
       So, have you received the rejection sent on 8 April? If not,
       call the council and ask them to email you a copy.
       #Post#: 20319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: privates
       Date: April 22, 2024, 2:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
       >
       > So, have you received the rejection sent on 8 April? If not,
       call the council and ask them to email you a copy.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here is the rejection for this PCN
  HTML https://ibb.co/vYbd3R9
       All details of this PCN are invalid
       #Post#: 20788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 27, 2024, 11:33 am
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       [member=61]privates[/member] so you need to call the council on
       Monday and ask if the notice to owner has been issued, if it
       hasn't you'll have to call again once every 10 days or so.
       As you know very well by now, you simply cannot rely on getting
       the notice to owner in the post.
       Once you know the notice to owner has been issued, you can make
       representation against it (the fact that you haven't physically
       received it makes no difference).
       #Post#: 21912--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: privates
       Date: May 9, 2024, 4:57 am
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > [member=61]privates[/member] so you need to call the council
       on Monday and ask if the notice to owner has been issued, if it
       hasn't you'll have to call again once every 10 days or so.
       >
       > As you know very well by now, you simply cannot rely on
       getting the notice to owner in the post.
       >
       > Once you know the notice to owner has been issued, you can
       make representation against it (the fact that you haven't
       physically received it makes no difference).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The NTO has been issued.
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/vLBrZv0/image-6209779.jpg
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/Jn5XrzK/IMG-6001.jpg
       #Post#: 21941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: May 9, 2024, 7:51 am
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       As regards the contravention, this relates solely to being
       parked on the footway which is a 24/7 prohibition, it has
       nothing to do with yellow lines or other timed restriction.
       With this in mind, were you parked on the footway?
       Photos are not necessary for the authority to prove its case,
       but if they're taken routinely but not here then an adjudicator
       might infer a reason if you deny being so parked.
       The exemptions to the prohibition are set out in 15(3) here:
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15
       #Post#: 22326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: privates
       Date: May 13, 2024, 4:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > As regards the contravention, this relates solely to being
       parked on the footway which is a 24/7 prohibition, it has
       nothing to do with yellow lines or other timed restriction.
       >
       > With this in mind, were you parked on the footway?
       >
       > Photos are not necessary for the authority to prove its case,
       but if they're taken routinely but not here then an adjudicator
       might infer a reason if you deny being so parked.
       >
       > The exemptions to the prohibition are set out in 15(3) here:
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This was given in the same location as :
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/city-of-westminster-pcn/msg16332/#msg16332
       The location is wrong. The pavement I don't even believe the
       vehicle would be able to even get on top of.
       #Post#: 23047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 19, 2024, 6:56 am
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       [member=61]privates[/member] well there's only one photo on the
       council website which is a bit suspicious:
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/DTnfu0b.jpeg
       However it's not the same location as your other thread, you can
       see the buildings reflected in the windscreen in the council
       photo and they match the buildings seen on Dering Street here:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/zeaEzNihTxqfsTZw8
       So I think you need to have a bit of a think about when you were
       on Dering Street, whether you were in fact parked on the
       pavement, and if so then why.
       The deadline for making representations is 3 June, do not miss
       this.
       #Post#: 25692--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: privates
       Date: June 12, 2024, 8:45 am
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
       >
       > [member=61]privates[/member] well there's only one photo on
       the council website which is a bit suspicious:
       >
       >
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/DTnfu0b.jpeg
       >
       > However it's not the same location as your other thread, you
       can see the buildings reflected in the windscreen in the council
       photo and they match the buildings seen on Dering Street here:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/zeaEzNihTxqfsTZw8
       >
       > So I think you need to have a bit of a think about when you
       were on Dering Street, whether you were in fact parked on the
       pavement, and if so then why.
       >
       > The deadline for making representations is 3 June, do not miss
       this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am completely clueless on the location of this PCN nor the
       reasons I was there.
       Unfortunately I have missed the representation for the deadline
       and today received the charge certificate.
       Is there any other steps to take? Of course I can not file a OOT
       for not receiving the NTO but how could such PCN be enforceable
       with no pictures?
       #Post#: 25700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster PCN
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: June 12, 2024, 9:51 am
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       Is there any other steps to take?
       No. Pay it.
       Of course I can not file a OOT for not receiving the NTO but how
       could such PCN be enforceable with no pictures?
       Irrelevant now.
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