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#Post#: 20254--------------------------------------------------
RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid Permit,
Claremont Road
DIR By: Iaali2
Date: April 22, 2024, 3:49 am
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Adding on behalf of my sister, she received a PCN whilst parked
in what she thought was free parking 2 hours no return. The
reason she didn't pick it up was the signage was slightly
obscured by branches of an overgrown tree, amd she just saw the
bottom. The next bay was also marked 30 minutes no return.
Is there any grounds of appeal or is she best off just paying
the reduced fee?
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#Post#: 20256--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: Iaali2
Date: April 22, 2024, 3:56 am
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/YRyizota63t4x7xs6
That's the Google Maps link. It is clear from foliage on there.
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#Post#: 20285--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 22, 2024, 11:05 am
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From the photo posted, the sign seems readable to me.
Post-up the PCN, all sides, so we can check it for possible
fatal errors of content.
#Post#: 20309--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: Iaali2
Date: April 22, 2024, 1:28 pm
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That was all the sides of the PCN.. it was the yellow PCN
attached to the windscreen apparently. The first 2 images
#Post#: 20782--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 27, 2024, 11:18 am
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Draft reps:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Newham,
In Andrew David Rush v London Borough of Southwark (2120562288,
5 January 2013) the tribunal held that:
"I see that the allegation in the Penalty Charge Notice is the
standardised and rather complex wording of a "12" allegation. It
consists of 36 words and encompasses the possibility of
application to three different types of parking location and
four different ways in which a contravention might occur.
The reason for this standardisation relates to how the Mayor of
London authorises rates of penalty.
However this does not exempt the local authority from the legal
necessity of giving to the Appellant an adequate description of
why the claim to penalty is being made: he must be able to make
an informed decision as to whether to pay the discount rate or
dispute the PCN.
The PCN did not, in my judgement, adequately explain to Mr Rush
that his displayed voucher was not valid in a permit bay.
I regard this as a procedural impropriety and I allow the
appeal."
This was followed in Natalie van Dijk v London Borough of
Islington (2150275729, 23 September 2015), and the same
circumstances apply in this case: the wording on the penalty
charge notice does not adequately particularise the alleged
wrongdoing, and for that reason the notice should be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Send the representation online and keep a screenshot of the
confirmation page.
The traffic order is The Newham (Forest Gate) (Parking Places)
(Special Parking Area) (No. 1) Order 2002
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/158LXdv1yNx1JzmPQ07lgUMx7fK-1_3tq/view<br
/>but I'll need to check if there are any relevant amendments
for
this road, and also if there is an amendment to deal with the
switch from pay & display machines to pay by phone (absent such
an amendment it's hard to see how they could enforce at this
location).
#Post#: 20802--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: Iaali2
Date: April 27, 2024, 1:05 pm
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Thank you, that's been done.
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#Post#: 24501--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 30, 2024, 2:59 pm
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For later, these are the amending orders which mention Claremont
Road:
The Newham (Forest Gate) (Parking Places) (Special Parking Area)
(No. 1, 2002) (Amendment No. 7) Order 2014
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qg-5-lG_z2TaiCgH1Z1cSKWdtvpEXZMy/view
The Newham (Forest Gate) (Parking Places) (Special Parking Area)
(No. 1, 2002) (Amendment No. 10) Order 2016.pdf
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ah7qHOyLgVrmmwo-0w17IFWoZRZXRqFn/view
The Newham (Forest Gate) (Parking Places) (Special Parking Area)
(No. 1, 2002) (Amendment No. 12) Order 2017
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Z0fxjt1iGt-eLjYsYojkCpOvdY1zRG7/view
The Newham (Forest Gate) (Parking Places) (Special Parking Area)
(No. 1, 2002) (Amendment No. 17) Order 2022
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/13ba2pCNxFtufmBA-lk_34cE5JXnSZ8KT/view
#Post#: 24952--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: Iaali2
Date: June 4, 2024, 4:29 pm
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HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BQxtRaYXe2rKPq8Mv6Ugo802IAzBXdrg/view?usp=drivesdk
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BSw_MuyAKX7FzuZm4i0iKqKkVp8nv4xR/view?usp=drivesdk
Letter of rejection of appeal attached
#Post#: 28581--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: Iaali2
Date: July 4, 2024, 5:03 am
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Have received the next letter, the fee has gone upto £130.00
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qgmg05y8etZ4OIA2pciYz63k8MIW-hc1/view?usp=drivesdk
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PaawxrtOClPDQ42el6Tby1Kn7XEohY16/view?usp=drivesdk
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QYdn-mSb9lCXip_ev-PJsnzsi8sPGzc1/view?usp=drivesdk
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PPSpgKUvKTdszuEe5CS97nbYphZYV3eg/view?usp=drivesdk
What's the next steps.. hopefully we have a means to challenge.
😬
#Post#: 28589--------------------------------------------------
Re: RE: LB of Newham, Code 12 - Parked in Zone without Valid
Permit, Claremont Road
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 4, 2024, 6:07 am
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The letter in post #7 has disappeared!
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