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#Post#: 21026--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 29, 2024, 2:54 pm
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--- Quote from: MMV Redux link ---
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> The problem with the OP's case is that he appears never to
have attached the charging cable.
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If the charging point it kaput why would you bother attaching
the charging cable?
#Post#: 21087--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: guest17
Date: April 30, 2024, 3:45 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
The point I am making is that the two successful cases I posted
were predicated on the vehicle's right to be in the bay:-
1) an electric vehicle, as allowed by the road marking; and
2) the vehicle being attached to the charging point as per the
sign.
So it's obvious the OP will find it difficult to use those cases
in support of any appeal because the Council will contend that
he had no right to be in the bay. One, because his vehicle could
not meet the requirement at 2) above and then, because of the
charging point being "kaput", he had a duty to move on.
There have been successful cases of unrestricted parking where a
meter fails but an EV bay carries it's own rules. I cannot see a
default case being successful i.e. "I had a right to park
because the bay did not meet it's intended purpose and couldn't
be enforced"
Mike
#Post#: 21088--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 30, 2024, 3:52 am
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We've won this argument where a pay and display machine was
kaput, I would argue that it's the same principle.
#Post#: 21091--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: guest17
Date: April 30, 2024, 4:10 am
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Go for it!
Mike
#Post#: 21100--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: Liffey
Date: April 30, 2024, 6:50 am
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Thank you for the recent responses. I'm unsure if it's helpful
now, but here is the email from the company:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/sZCErYv.png
#Post#: 21112--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: April 30, 2024, 8:37 am
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In short:
The so-called parking place is on a road, albeit the footway;
The restriction in the parking place applies 24/7;
There is a single yellow line on the carriageway indicating a
waiting restriction;
This restriction applies to the footway as it does to the
carriageway;
= signs which conflictingly state that you may wait in the road
outside of the restricted waiting hours but not in the parking
place unless you comply with those parking restrictions.
Nonsense.
And if you want further proof, go to GSV and move along the road
to where 24/7 disabled bays have been placed on the carriageway.
Here you'll see that the same yellow line stops short of the
parking places and commences afterwards, as is right and proper
because you cannot have two conflicting restrictions (each with
their own exemptions) in place at the same time.
The council for some reason think that it's OK to place your
parking place within the scope of the yellow line and pretend
it's not there.
In my opinion.
#Post#: 21154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 30, 2024, 6:53 pm
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--- Quote from: Liffey link ---
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> Thank you for the recent responses. I'm unsure if it's helpful
now, but here is the email from the company:
>
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Can we please see your email to the company that they are
responding to?
#Post#: 21286--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: Liffey
Date: May 2, 2024, 5:35 am
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I had to fill in a "contact us" form on their website
The CEO only observed me for a few minutes
#Post#: 21452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: Liffey
Date: May 3, 2024, 11:58 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> We've won this argument where a pay and display machine was
kaput, I would argue that it's the same principle.
>
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Could you direct me to a post on this please? I've tried
searching but cannot find one.
#Post#: 21488--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barking & Dagenham PCN 14 parked in an electric vehicle
space without charging
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 3, 2024, 5:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Liffey link ---
>
> Could you direct me to a post on this please? I've tried
searching but cannot find one.
>
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Have a look at the cases on rows 135 to 140 (excluding 138 and
139) here
HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?pli=1#gid=642784037&range=A135.
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