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       Re: FPN Hillingdon Council for Engine Idle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 24, 2024, 4:18 am
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       [member=573]ghostivv[/member] are you still with us?
       #Post#: 20723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN Hillingdon Council for Engine Idle
   DIR By: ghostivv
       Date: April 26, 2024, 1:42 pm
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       Thanks for the replies. The FPN is paid now as too much hassle
       with the court proceedings.
       The driver was waiting for someone and yes he did left the
       engine running out of habit as he's a cab driver. We are well
       aware of council enforcements on littering etc but this was the
       first time on engine idle which came as a big surprise
       considering it seems to be a kind of norm. I have the issue with
       the way the FPN was handed. May be wrong interpretation on my
       part but is it not the law that the FPN to be issued ONLY if
       ignored the order from enforcement officer. So in this case, the
       officers should first ask the driver to stop the engine and if
       ignored, then issue the fine.
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       > (1)A person issued with a community protection notice may
       appeal to a magistrates' court against the notice on any of the
       following grounds.
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       > 1That the conduct specified in the community protection
       notice—
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       > (a)did not take place,
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       > (b)has not had a detrimental effect on the quality of life of
       those in the locality,
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       > (c)has not been of a persistent or continuing nature,
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       > (d)is not unreasonable, or
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       > (e)is conduct that the person cannot reasonably be expected to
       control or affect.
       --- End Quote ---
       
       Don't know the reasonable time to leave engine idle.
       #Post#: 20724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN Hillingdon Council for Engine Idle
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: April 26, 2024, 2:19 pm
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       Whether or not the correct procedure was followed is irrelevant
       as you have paid the FPN anyway.
       #Post#: 20742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN Hillingdon Council for Engine Idle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 27, 2024, 4:00 am
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       As Andy says it's now academic, but I very much doubt that an
       FPN is a "community protection notice" for the purposes of the
       legislation.
       #Post#: 20754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN Hillingdon Council for Engine Idle
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: April 27, 2024, 6:48 am
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
       >
       > As Andy says it's now academic, but I very much doubt that an
       FPN is a "community protection notice" for the purposes of the
       legislation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Likewise.
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