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       #Post#: 20248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: April 21, 2024, 8:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       > i cant see any large roundals on the road from the picture,
       >
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       Well none are required anyway.
       Plus had you exited a road with an existing 20 limit then no
       terminal signs would be needed either.
       #Post#: 20271--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: April 22, 2024, 6:43 am
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       >
       > Oh well, thats the door closed on that one, lets see whats
       offered..if
       >
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       So you can tell them - in your own words - to "poke it up your
       bum"?
       Or was that just false bravado?
       If you're offered a course, take it.
       #Post#: 21805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: May 8, 2024, 4:35 am
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
       >
       > [quote author=loady link=topic=1690.msg20163#msg20163
       date=1713713026]
       > Oh well, thats the door closed on that one, lets see whats
       offered..if
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So you can tell them - in your own words - to "poke it up your
       bum"?
       Or was that just false bravado?
       If you're offered a course, take it.
       [/quote]
       Yes, exactly what i am going to do, tell them to poke it up
       thier bum, theres like £8 difference cost between the course and
       the fine, ill take the points and not lose three hours of my
       life being droned on at about doing 26 in in a now 20mph major A
       road, these 20MPH zones, LTN's and the like are a farse, driven
       by cyclists with clip boards who contribute zero to poy for all
       the stupid ill placed bike lanes.
       Actually, i wonder if the mamil's will abide by the highway code
       of not overtaking on the left now they can actually go faster
       than a car is allowed to. ::)
       #Post#: 21806--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: May 8, 2024, 4:37 am
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       anyway... so im not tasking the course, do i need to do
       anything, it seems that i just ignore the course and then they
       will send out the fine ? going forward ill keep the sat nav on
       that will warn me of 20mph zones and where the cameras are.
       #Post#: 21808--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: 666
       Date: May 8, 2024, 5:31 am
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       >
       > anyway... so im not tasking the course, do i need to do
       anything, it seems that i just ignore the course and then they
       will send out the fine ? going forward ill keep the sat nav on
       that will warn me of 20mph zones and where the cameras are.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wouldn't rely on it.
       #Post#: 21818--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: May 8, 2024, 6:51 am
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       >
       > ill take the points and not lose three hours of my life being
       droned on at about doing 26 in in a now 20mph major A road,
       these 20MPH zones, LTN's and the like are a farse, driven by
       cyclists with clip boards who contribute zero to poy for all the
       stupid ill placed bike lanes.
       >
       > Actually, i wonder if the mamil's will abide by the highway
       code of not overtaking on the left now they can actually go
       faster than a car is allowed to. ::)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Seems a pity that you should decide unnecessarily to accept 3
       points because of a couple of falsely held preconceived notions
       you have...
       As I explained previously, I attended a course last year and
       found it rather helpful with no droning and no talking down and
       not at all an inconvenience.  You might have found that
       attending one would have been quite informative if you drive for
       a living.  You might have discovered, for example, that a 20mph
       limit doesn't necessarily have to have roundels on the road.
       You also might have learned that 20mph limits have nothing to do
       with cyclists and rather a lot more to do with extensive
       scientific evidence proving that 20 mph limits significantly
       reduce the risk of serious injury to pedestrians.
       But of course you don't want to know any of that...
       #Post#: 21819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: May 8, 2024, 6:52 am
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       > it seems that i just ignore the course and then they will send
       out the fine ?
       >
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       They send out a conditional offer of a fixed Penalty, not a
       fine.  A fine you have a pay, a CoFP you don’t.
       #Post#: 21945--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: May 9, 2024, 9:18 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > it seems that i just ignore the course and then they will send
       out the fine ?
       --- End Quote ---
       They might do that. Or they might decide to prosecute you in
       court. Their choice.
       #Post#: 32304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: August 5, 2024, 11:02 am
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       No they dont want to spend that money on little old me, anyway,
       i just thought i would check in see if there was any last ditch
       ways out of this stealth tax/money trap.
       Is there a period that they have to respond by or send the
       notice CoFP by ? because i just received it and its dated the
       1st of August.
       (emphasis by mod)
       #Post#: 32309--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 5, 2024, 11:32 am
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       There is no legal requirement to issue a COFP. Strangely enough
       there is no legal requirement to issue the COFP that there is no
       legal requirement to issue within any particular timescale. The
       only issue would be if the suspended enforcement period (28 days
       from date of issue) extended beyond the 6 month limit to
       instigate court proceedings.
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