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       #Post#: 19971--------------------------------------------------
       NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: April 19, 2024, 5:19 am
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       Getting ridiculous now driving in london, why dont we just go
       back to horses and carts. Anyway...
       Probably banged to rights but i thought i would put it up for
       your eyes to peruse for errors and have a little rant.
       I was picking up my Daughter and last time i did so they had put
       up LTN's on all the side roads where i would cut through to get
       to her to avoid the bottle neck at Brixton, so this time i went
       in from the top of Brixton and have not done this before so i
       was looking for her block of flats whilst checking i wasnt
       contrevening another newly invented restriction and checking
       whether i was allowed to traverse the bus lane or not and etc
       etc etc, yes i was doing over 20 clearly, under 30 until i
       spotted the speed limit was now 20 on a main artery, i dont even
       know where the camera was that got me but i am pretty sure when
       i spotted it it would have been then i would have possibly
       noticed the speed limit.
       Dont think ill get off with this one but you never know.
       Cheers and happy driving out there.
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       #Post#: 19977--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: 666
       Date: April 19, 2024, 5:36 am
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       It looks OK. I guess if it was an April Fool they'd have told
       you by now.
       For that speed, you should be offered an awareness course if
       you're eligible, i.e. you haven't done one in the previous three
       years.
       #Post#: 19986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: April 19, 2024, 7:38 am
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       Got offered one before and ill tell them exactly the same as i
       did last time.. poke it up your bum, ill take the points and
       good luck writing it onto my paper license lol, which looks like
       a map thats been rolled up in Sinbads pocket.
       #Post#: 19989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: April 19, 2024, 8:07 am
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       >
       > Got offered one before and ill tell them exactly the same as i
       did last time.. poke it up your bum, ill take the points and
       good luck writing it onto my paper license lol, which looks like
       a map thats been rolled up in Sinbads pocket.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why take the points?
       I did an online* course last October.  Can't remember exactly
       what it cost (less than £100?) but it only took up about two
       hours of my time and was no inconvenience at all.  No lecturing
       or talking down to you - it was just like a chat or discussion
       between 6 people about speeding and speed limits.
       And if you think that driiving in London is getting more and
       more restrictive, doesn't it make sense to keep your points
       down?   Turning a course down isn't really a worthwhile show of
       defiance
       *Where I live only online courses are (or were) available.  I
       suppose it would take up more of your time if you had to travel
       to a venue to do an "in person" course.
       #Post#: 19991--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: April 19, 2024, 8:20 am
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       Points all go onto an electronic driver’s record anyway, so I
       doubt such a reply will cause the police any concern.
       #Post#: 20002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: April 19, 2024, 10:51 am
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
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       > [quote author=loady link=topic=1690.msg19986#msg19986
       date=1713530337]
       > ...ill take the points and good luck writing it onto my paper
       license lol, which looks like a map thats been rolled up in
       Sinbads pocket.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It will take a little more than luck. It is no longer a
       requirement to submit your licence for endorsement purposes.
       #Post#: 20117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: April 21, 2024, 3:08 am
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       For me, driving is an occupational hazzard, possibly things
       might have changed since i last got a NIP, the last one where i
       was offered the course was nearly twenty years ago if i recall
       correctly, i rarely get caught and the difference to my premium
       with and without the points was £11 and the course was held in
       Hendon and cost was £200, i live in Surrey so was never going to
       happen.
       #Post#: 20131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: April 21, 2024, 6:24 am
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       I am guessing that there are no avenues of appeal or reps
       available to NIP's ? i just had a look at the images today, i
       wasnt long turned on to the road and i cant see any large
       roundals on the road from the picture, GE is not updated so cant
       search there but i beleive at the point of travelling through
       the camera i was under the illusion that a major trunk road
       would not be a 20mph limit, my brakes are clearly applied in the
       picture...wriggle wriggle wriggle...
       #Post#: 20135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: April 21, 2024, 6:43 am
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       --- Quote from: loady link ---
       >
       > I am guessing that there are no avenues of appeal or reps
       available to NIP's ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You cannot appeal a NIP. It is simply a notice. If you want to
       challenge the allegation you will have to decline or ignore any
       out of court offers and see the matter heard in court.
       #Post#: 20163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP A23 Brixton Hill Nr Dumbarton Rd N/B (4471)
   DIR By: loady
       Date: April 21, 2024, 10:23 am
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       Oh well, thats the door closed on that one, lets see whats
       offered..if
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