DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so ...
*****************************************************
#Post#: 21999--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: northwalian
Date: May 9, 2024, 4:00 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
@cp8759
tagging @belt as they haven't been on since May 1st
With apologies for the time taken, I've been away. I was after
the Welsh of the Order to get the title, and also to find out if
"on street parking" and "off street parking" has a legal
translation as what we use everyday seems literal but
colloquial, Still, if they haven't got a Welsh version already,
it doesn't seem to be relevant, I've therefore just put the
English title in. (Must admit I thought the Welsh Language Act
required public bodies to have it in both languages)
Anyway, try this. Note Anyone from the South will know that I
have done this more as we would in the Gogledd.
Not 100% the 'sieve' comment works well in Welsh but it's in
there as requested. I can't think of a Welsh idiom.
Annwyl Cyngor Dinas a Sir Abertawe,
Rydw i'n herio atebolrwydd ar y sail y na wnaeth ddigwydd y
drosedd honedig.
Mae'r arwydd yn dangos “Deiliaid bathodyn anabledd a thrwydded
yn unig”. Mae gen I fathodyn glas ac mae gen i drwydded yrru
hefyd, felly roedd hi'n amlwg yr oedd y lle ar gael i mi. Ar
frig fy nhrwyddedd yrru ydy'r geiriau “Trwydded Yrru”.
Bellach, mae'r Hysbysiad Tal Cosb yn honni trosedd ar-y-stryd,
ond mae “THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA THE
ROTUNDA CARRIAGEWAY FRONTING THE GUILDHALL OFF STREET PARKING
PLACE ORDER Traffic Regulation Order 2019” yn nodi mai maes
parcio oddi-ar-y-stryd ydy hwn. Felly, dydy hi ddim yn bosib
cael trosedd ar-y-stryd yn y fan hyn.
Erthygl 20(f) y gorchymyn yn nodi bod y mannau ar gael i
ddeiliaid caniatadau G neu M, ond does dim byd ar yr arwydd
ynglŷn â fathau caniatadau. Felly, mae'r arwydd yn hollol
annigonol. Hefyd, byddwn i'n ychwanegu, y ffordd mae'r gorchymyn
wedi cael ei ysgrifenni, mae deiliad caniatad G neu M yn cael
parcio yn y mannau hyn, oes gynnyn nhw fathodyn glas ai beidio.
Mae'n ymddangos, felly, bod hyn yn trechu pwrpas yn mannau hyn.
Yn olaf, mae erthygl 21 y gorchymyn yn rhoi eithriad llwyr i'r
cyfyngiad i ddeiliaid bathodyn glas. Mae hyn yn amddiffyniad
llwyr i'r drosedd honedig.
Mae gan achos y cyngor mwy o dyllau na rhidyll. Byddwn i'n
awgrymu eich bod chi yn canslo'r Hysbysiad Tal Cosb, yn lle
parhau efo'r mater ac yn codi cywilydd ar eich hunain.
Yn gywir,
#Post#: 22612--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: northwalian
Date: May 15, 2024, 2:02 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Not sure if [member=1509]belt[/member] is still around but an
edit (I can't edit the above post?) replace "seilen" with "sail"
as I've been told "grounds" can only be used in the plural
#Post#: 23242--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 20, 2024, 2:30 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: northwalian link ---
>
> Not sure if [member=1509]belt[/member] is still around but an
edit (I can't edit the above post?) replace "seilen" with "sail"
as I've been told "grounds" can only be used in the plural
>
--- End Quote ---
Done, I see belt has been back today so hopefully he's submitted
that.
[member=1509]belt[/member] please could you confirm?
#Post#: 23360--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: belt
Date: May 21, 2024, 5:22 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Hello again,
Apologies for the delay in response (family stuff).
I can confirm it was submitted. My father received a response
just a few days ago:
"I am pleased to inform you that on this occasion your
explanation has been accepted and
the Penalty Charge has now been cancelled.
Please ensure to read the signage in the future to avoid further
PCN being issued to you.
If you are issued further PCNs for the same contravention, these
may not be cancelled."
Many thanks for all your help, it's been most appreciated!
#Post#: 23466--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: northwalian
Date: May 21, 2024, 6:02 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Diolch am hynny, falch o glywed :)
#Post#: 24016--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 27, 2024, 9:55 am
---------------------------------------------------------
[member=1509]belt[/member] thanks for letting us know, teamwork
really paid off on this one. By the way was the reply in English
or Welsh?
#Post#: 24341--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swansea - code 16 - without valid permit - Guildhall Rotunda
DIR By: belt
Date: May 29, 2024, 5:27 am
---------------------------------------------------------
All your help was very much appreciated; the reply letter was
bilingual (I s'pose they use a cut-and-paste template for that).
Unfortunately my father somehow managed to get another PCN
(different council, different circumstances), so I'm going to
have to start a new thread!
*****************************************************
Page 3 of 3
DIR Previous Page