URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
  HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so ...
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 19365--------------------------------------------------
       Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: Nina123
       Date: April 8, 2024, 6:38 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Hey everyone, so I received my first PCN and I need a little
       assistance on how to appeal.
       So this PCN for the alleged traffic contravention is from Ealing
       council I received on 5th April for driving in a pedestrian zone
       which are restricted in the morning and afternoon during school
       hours.
       PCN number: AO01009504
       Registration: GF55KEU
       Date of offence 27/3/24. Date of notice 5/4/24.
       Currently there is a footage and pictures which I've had a look
       at. I've driven on this road many times before so it must be new
       signage that I clearly did not see or it wasn't clear enough.
       There is also no advance warning signs at all, I'm alleged to
       have driven there at 15:49 and I've attached the documents
       below.
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/vfw2h2JVzZ1GVa5LA
       My question is how can I challenge this penalty what can I
       write, I want to see if it's worth a try to appeal. So if anyone
       can advise would be greatly appreciated[attach=1]
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 19372--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: April 9, 2024, 4:07 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Unfortunately, Google Street View latest is 2022 so doesn't show
       this new restriction.
       The council are under a duty to put up signs that adequately
       convey the restriction to motorists. This should include
       installation of advance signs on the approaches where a turn is
       needed to enter the street.  If the signs were facing you on
       your route, and you didn't have to turn in, you'll struggle.
       So please let us know your route.  Appeals at London Tribunals
       have succeeded on this advance sign aspect.  Of course, councils
       don't want to spend the money so try to get away with the
       minimum signage possible.
       #Post#: 19470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: Nina123
       Date: April 10, 2024, 5:56 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Unfortunately, Google Street View latest is 2022 so doesn't
       show this new restriction.
       >
       > The council are under a duty to put up signs that adequately
       convey the restriction to motorists. This should include
       installation of advance signs on the approaches where a turn is
       needed to enter the street.  If the signs were facing you on
       your route, and you didn't have to turn in, you'll struggle.
       > So please let us know your route.  Appeals at London Tribunals
       have succeeded on this advance sign aspect.  Of course, councils
       don't want to spend the money so try to get away with the
       minimum signage possible.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I didn't have to turn in, so I guess my case won't stand a
       chance. From Avenue road I went straight ahead into Acton lane.
       Here is a video that was posted
  HTML https://viewmypcn.co.uk/view.aspx
       #Post#: 19577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: Nina123
       Date: April 12, 2024, 12:35 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       anyone?
       #Post#: 19578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: Chijiki
       Date: April 12, 2024, 12:39 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Nina123 link ---
       >
       >
       > Here is a video that was posted
  HTML https://viewmypcn.co.uk/view.aspx
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Anyone wishing to view the video will require the following
       information :-
       PCN number: AO01009504
       Registration: GF55KEU
       #Post#: 19594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: April 12, 2024, 5:25 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Having now seen the video, I think you will struggle greatly to
       overcome the PCN based on the actual contravention. Your car
       drives straight across the crossroads and past the sign with no
       hesitation whatsoever. However, there may be a "technical"
       defence, but you'd have to wait and see if anybody comes up with
       something.
       #Post#: 19770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 16, 2024, 3:24 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [member=1476]Nina123[/member] I think you'll have to use the
       strategy of last resort, which is explained here:
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581
       As with that case, you would have to tell us if you have any
       meaningful mitigation (especially anything not connected to the
       contravention).
       #Post#: 79669--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
   DIR By: Lasry75
       Date: July 5, 2025, 6:11 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing council PCN 53J Acton Lane
       « Reply #1 on: April 09, 2024, 10:07:27 am »
       Unfortunately, Google Street View latest is 2022 so doesn't show
       this new restriction.
       The council are under a duty to put up signs that adequately
       convey the restriction to motorists. This should include
       installation of advance signs on the approaches where a turn is
       needed to enter the street.  If the signs were facing you on
       your route, and you didn't have to turn in, you'll struggle.
       So please let us know your route.  Appeals at London Tribunals
       have succeeded on this advance sign aspect.  Of course, councils
       don't want to spend the money so try to get away with the
       minimum signage possible.
       What would be your advice for someone that did turn in?
       *****************************************************
       Page 1 of 1