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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 15, 2023, 6:10 pm
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> In addition to this, what are the chances that my
representation gets refused and I have to go to tribunal?
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Very high, because this is essentially a money-making game, with
a very small, (less than 5%) traffic management component.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: Circle87
Date: August 16, 2023, 6:42 pm
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Dear all,
So I went to the website you linked, CP, I entered my details,
and my appeal was exactly as follows:
"Dear Ashford Borough Council,
I contest liability for PCN AS09113666 on the grounds that the
alleged contravention did not occur. The terms and conditions
board which is required to convey the main requirements created
by the off-street parking places order makes no mention
whatsoever of any permit parking places, it simply indicates
that payment must be made, vehicles must park wholly within a
marked bay, and vehicles parked in a disabled persons' bay must
display a blue badge.
I have complied with all of those requirements, and it follows
that on this occasion a contravention did not occur.
Yours faithfully,
Allan Cadenhead".
On the next page I uploaded the picture (attached)of the board
that doesn't mention anything about Permit Holder Bays, which
they have anyway.
I will now await to see the outcome of this appeal and update
here accordingly. I assume this is the "formal" representation?
So if they reject I will be heading to tribunal to contest the
facts there.
EDIT: Just wondered what the chances of me failing at tribunal
are and me ending up having to pay the full £105? I will fight
this to the bitter end. I feel it's unfair law abiding citizens
are getting stung by a piece of weathered cardboard
inconspicuously hung on the back of a page with plastic zip
ties! >:(
Many thanks,
Allan.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 20, 2023, 9:34 am
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--- Quote from: Circle87 link ---
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> EDIT: Just wondered what the chances of me failing at tribunal
are and me ending up having to pay the full £105?
>
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None, the penalty is £70, not £105.
If you lose the appeal at the tribunal stage, you get 28 days to
pay the £70 charge and that's the end of the matter. The penalty
can only go up to £105 if you lose the appeal and don't pay the
charge within 28 days of the tribunal's decision.
That being said, if they reject I'm happy to represent you at
the tribunal.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: Circle87
Date: August 22, 2023, 9:52 am
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Hello again.
So today I have received, as CP predicted, the Notice of
Rejection of Representations letter from ABC. Please see
attached the full letter (max 4 per post so I'll post the next 4
in the post below this).
What would be the next steps? Do I now go to
www.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk and submit details there?
Many thanks in advance,
Allan.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: Circle87
Date: August 22, 2023, 9:54 am
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Letter attachment continued.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: Circle87
Date: August 22, 2023, 8:02 pm
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So just to confirm, I have until midnight on 16.09.2023 to
approach Tribunal?
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: Circle87
Date: August 24, 2023, 4:40 pm
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Good evening. Apologies, I haven't had a reply yet. I'm just
wondering what the next course of action is. Please let me know.
Best regards,
Allan.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 27, 2023, 11:28 am
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[member=208]Circle87[/member] I'm just catching up on things,
I'll drop you a PM.
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Re: Code 85 Parked without a valid virtual permit, Ashford, Kent
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 6, 2023, 6:35 am
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