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       Re: TFL fine for parking on Red route
   DIR By: SaschaVW
       Date: July 8, 2024, 5:17 am
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       Hi - sorry I thought they were just generic and not needed, but
       please see below:
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       #Post#: 29172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL fine for parking on Red route
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 8, 2024, 4:44 pm
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       Well in practice there is nothing you could say that would
       persuade TFL to cancel the PCN voluntarily, this will have to go
       to the tribunal so that they can be forced to. As you can't take
       back what you said in the informal representations, you might as
       well send something short and to the point:
       [indent]
       Dear Transport for London,
       I require you to reconsider my informal representations afresh.
       Yours faithfully,
       [/indent]
       It looks like you can't make representations online, so you
       might have to send a letter in the post, in which case you must
       keep a copy of what you've sent and you must get proof of
       postage (free at any post office counter).
       #Post#: 29211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL fine for parking on Red route
   DIR By: SaschaVW
       Date: July 9, 2024, 3:08 am
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       Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member],
       Many thanks for the advice, I will send the letter as you have
       advised.
       I'm a bit concerned about the mounting fine, conscious it goes
       up the longer this is outstanding. What do you think my chances
       are at a tribunal and what is the associated cost of this
       process?
       Thanks for your continued help and support.
       #Post#: 29218--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL fine for parking on Red route
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: July 9, 2024, 4:12 am
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       IMO, at present there's no evidence of a statutory defence for
       you.
       The list in an earlier post is purely speculative or prospective
       and doesn't bear upon the facts as known i.e. you parked in a
       clearly and properly (as in adequately) marked bay.
       1) PCSO uniform not compliant, - speculative as you weren't
       there and didn't see them;
       2) The copy of the PCN that they produce at the tribunal is not
       a true copy of the original, as per Vanessa Price v Nottingham
       City Council (NG00044-2201, 7 March 2022) and Tahir Hamid v
       London Borough of Waltham Forest (2220519865, 9 August 2022)-
       speculative, it hasn't happened yet;
       3) The notice of rejection is ambiguous - similarly
       speculative.*
       TfL often re-offer a discounted sum but whether this is
       contingent upon the reps being submitted no later than day 14
       I'm not sure. If it is then submit reps to arrive no later than
       Mon. 15th(day 14), which means post first class no later than
       11th and get proof of posting.
       *- while the speculation might be based on recorded deficiencies
       in other cases, you should be aware that the same may not apply
       in your case. Items 2 and 3 would become evident on receipt of a
       rejection hence why attempting to maintain the discounted level
       of penalty is important.
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       Re: TFL fine for parking on Red route
   DIR By: SaschaVW
       Date: August 1, 2024, 10:59 am
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       Hi,
       Please see below response from TFL - they have not surprisingly
       rejected my appeal. What do you advice now - shall I  just cut
       my losses? The outstanding balance remains at £80.
       Thanks in advance,
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